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Posted by tosh 1 day ago

Web Search API(developers.cloudflare.com)
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ByeByeSpace 1 day ago|
I run a small side project on Cloudflare Workers, so having search available right from a Worker without adding another vendor is appealing. Curious how the pricing compares to Brave's search API.
laumars 1 day ago||
Lately I've been using SearXNG for personal models. It's free and seems ok thus far.

https://docs.searxng.org/

duncangh 1 day ago||
Cloudflare has been shipping more than FedEx lately. Would love to learn more about how they are going about this from a strategy, planning and execution standpoint.
solaire_oa 1 day ago||
Anthropic plausibly uses Brave Search... and Brave search maintains its own index. Makes sense: cheaper search API, leveraging non-Google, etc.

Here we are, one layer of indirection more: Ceramic, Exa, Linkup. Who knows what they use. If you told me that those 3 build and maintain their own index, I'd first question whether that was true, and if it is, I would question whether it was any good (relative to Google/Bing/Brave).

So what is CF providing here? Maybe some free credits to entice us to use their router? No, not that either ("billed to your AI Gateway credits"). Maybe a comparison of which agent search yields the best results? Nope.

It's a crappy proxy- probably less efficient and more volatile than hitting the agent API directly.

This is only if I understand the product correctly (which I admittedly skimmed) due to the sheer number of screeching vibey nothingburgers coming out of CF over the past month.

alexey-salmin 1 day ago|
>Here we are, one layer of indirection more: Ceramic, Exa, Linkup. Who knows what they use. If you told me that those 3 build and maintain their own index, I'd first question whether that was true, and if it is, I would question whether it was any good (relative to Google/Bing/Brave).

Hi! Exa Head of Index here. We certainly do have our own index and it's one of the biggest among the independent players (i.e. not Google and Bing, which by the way closed off their official search APIs). [1]

Regarding the quality: search is a multi-dimensional problem, you can be better on one set of queries and worse on the other. There are tons of benchmarks in the industry, all the players in the AI search market are fighting very hard to climb to the top, updates are shared every week.

We track dozens of use cases and run evals continuously, we perform well on all the verticals we optimize for. Not only we top the ranking on e.g. financial queries, but also Claude with Exa search performs better that Claude with native search -- as measured by independent observers [2]. This means that the underlying search is materially better for the outcome, it's not just how we evaluate the search itself.

[1] https://lnkd.in/p/e9u3dyEG [2] https://lnkd.in/p/enYe4h7u

BrendanEich 1 day ago||
Subtweeting feels low, and I was not picking on you only. Here is a direct link: https://x.com/BrendanEich/status/2107224138394095965
anon373839 1 day ago||
> All three support Zero Data Retention for requests made through Cloudflare

But does CloudFlare itself commit to zero data retention? If not, this isn’t too meaningful.

hartator 21 hours ago||
SerpApi has also now its own index: https://serpapi.com/search-index-api
ronfriedhaber 1 day ago||
Interesting to see how this can be compared with Exa, Alas, Cloudflare really is shipping many great orthogonal products recently.
breakingcups 1 day ago|
Seems like this uses Exa, as well as two other providers.
EcommerceFlow 1 day ago||
Spent a few months building a product scraper using a mad mash up of various LLMs, OCR, etc. The pricing for their providers is 3x-8x higher than something like Luna 5.6 w/ Web Search. Not sure what their differentiator is, unless they just wanted to launch something.
hmartin 1 day ago|
I've been working on a TypeScript package to provide a unified search API across these providers:

https://github.com/hbmartin/agent-web-search

So this gives a unified search experience without adding another cloud hop and dependency.

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