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Posted by hising 1 hour ago

Incident with Actions(www.githubstatus.com)
75 points | 52 comments
aliasxneo 1 hour ago|
We all know that AI is compounding the problem, but I wonder how much of it is actually AI writing extremely overly-complex (and likely inefficient) CI pipelines for vibe coders who have absolutely no idea what CI is or why they would need it. I'm sure the AI makes all sorts of great arguments to the user about why they need it and the user, none the wiser, blindly accepts it all. Why wouldn't they? It costs them absolutely nothing on an OSS repo.

I know that frontier models (Astra, Fable, Opus 5.5) at some point always end up writing a test that unnecessarily elongates CI. I've seen everything from literal sleep calls in a test unit to arbitrarily deciding a test needs to download a 100MB file to prove something works. As a engineer, I catch these, but a vibe coder has no idea there's probably hundreds of these in their code making CI take 10-20 minutes. Hell, they probably don't even click the "Actions" tab.

What a mess.

danielklnstein 26 minutes ago||
I feel like non-professional vibe coders are scapegoated too often. I'm a professional software engineer with extensive experience in CI/CD pipelines. And I heap on 30x more stress on GitHub than I did before AI-powered development took over - because (1) I'm much more efficient and running many development tasks in parallel, and (2) CI runs are one of my tools for ensuring that quality doesn't degrade with velocity.

I think that even if you stripped out non-professional vibe coders from the equation - the problem is still there, and will keep compounding.

rsalus 11 minutes ago||
+1, I'm definitely running _way_ more kinds of CI tests than I had before AI.
wwind123 51 minutes ago|||
Yeah, CI being free for public repos, kind of encourages people to just add whatever AI suggests to CI.

For one of my green-field projects that I just vibe-coded with AI's (where Claude, Codex and Gemini critique each other's design and code), a PR could go through many iterations (commits) until every AI approves, and if every commit runs the CI, it'd be very slow. So I eventually come up with a mechanism to only run CI when all reviewers approve. That improves things a lot.

OptionOfT 57 minutes ago|||
I wonder about this too. Whenever you ask a question to do something in GitHub Actions it comes up with an answer that kinda works, but I would've never chosen because it works around the inherent limitations of GitHub Actions.

Those limitations were put in place for a reason, and using the work-around feels dirty. I recognize that all platforms are flawed once you start to do more than they offer, but I feel that with AI its easier to build the plumbing around it.

The question shouldn't be: can you do this, but 'is this the right thing to do'?

kjuulh 38 minutes ago|||
It feels more like volume than speed. AI has actually improved our speed quite a bit, as it is fairly easy to just get AI to make it fast. Will vibe coders do this, probably not. That said our volume is probably 10-30x in commits and ci jobs as we had pre-march.
pluc 55 minutes ago|||
I don't think it's just AI, it's an AI layer on top of the Microsoft layer. Both of those are inefficiencies on their own, but combined they're pretty spectacular. Just imagine spec-driven development over there and the titles of everyone with a hand in the markdown.
Sau1707 44 minutes ago|||
I was thinking the other day...what about a captcha that filter out developers from vibe coders, without letting them know.

So you can reduce the free resources they consume with the slop.

cyanydeez 54 minutes ago|||
I'm guessing it just has more to do with commiting and pushing and automatic CI builds.

Nothing about complexity, simply github setup such an easy automated system but AI cares not about whether their commit+push is going to kcik off a whole rebuild.

Same thing happens when I run docker build loops. The AI gives very little shit, unless I tell it, about not busting cache; so it'll sit there for hours making minor changes just to make a 30 minute build.

AI has not concern about how long anything takes, in general, but it if it's just waiting for it to return, it won't get impatient.

whalesalad 52 minutes ago||
if only there was a way to say "i know wtf im doing, give my workers precedence, i'll pay for it" the billing model for gh actions is ... i still don't understand it.
progbits 1 hour ago||
Interestingly all the separate enterprise cloud instances show the same thing:

https://us.githubstatus.com/posts/details/P7VGB7I

https://au.githubstatus.com/posts/details/PO54BK8

https://eu.githubstatus.com/posts/details/PRESCZY

https://jp.githubstatus.com/posts/details/P0N7ZG5

What's the point of (supposedly) separate and isolated data residency deployments if they all have single point of failure?

this_user 1 hour ago||
Well, the point is being able to charge enterprise customers more.
someonebaggy 1 hour ago||
The point of a data residency thingie is for data residency, not uptime. It's a fig leaf, though - America can access all data residency thingies.

fuck dang with a rusty cactus, in retaliation for giving me a rate limit

tom1337 7 minutes ago||
> We continue to monitor for full recovery and are working to mitigate ongoing issues affecting other services, including access to repository lists, licensing, and billing pages

Those issues affecting other services are not visible anywhere else on the status page, are they?

flohofwoe 1 hour ago||
GH Actions problems are so frequent that they are really not newsworthy anymore. Most of the time they don't even show up on the status page because they seem to be completely random (e.g. manually cancelling and restarting may resolve the issue).
Night_Thastus 1 hour ago|
At this point, I think it would be more noteworthy if they cross X days with it working without issue. "Github actions remains online after 180 days" would certainly be a headline.
gherkinnn 1 hour ago||
It would result in a lot less noise if we got updates for when GitHub is up!
adamddev1 1 hour ago||
I moved my CI to a runner on my Forgejo (using a cheap Hetzner server) and it works beautifully and reliably.
notduckrabbit 39 minutes ago||
It has never been easier to setup Proxmox, Kubernetes, and Actions Runner Controller (ARC) to do your own CI on old hardware you might otherwise recycle.
kjuulh 35 minutes ago||
We ran actions runners ourselves in kubernetes at previous jobs, and at least back then, a lot of the errors came from the github services simply not telling the runners to handle jobs. So in general it didn't matter how much compute you had, they never got scheduled jobs.
notduckrabbit 26 minutes ago||
ARC protects you from most common kind of Actions incident as seen over last month: GitHub's runner pool running short. Nothing CI-based can protect from an outage in the Actions service itself.
internet101010 28 minutes ago||
Yep. Proxmox, Kubernetes, ARC, and t3 code threads spawned inside of kata containers is my current workflow.
veb 1 hour ago||
I moved my CI runners to Bunny recently, and not only is it cheaper, but it's much faster as well.
nathancahill 1 hour ago|
Looking for alternatives, Bunny = BunnyShell?
veb 40 minutes ago|||
Magic Containers on https://bunny.net/
paularmstrong 35 minutes ago||
That site design is definitely a choice.
tagraves 31 minutes ago|||
Please look into RWX too! (rwx.com). (note: I'm a co-founder).
rosslh 1 hour ago||
My company switched to a different provider for our action runners partly for reliability reasons. Despite that, jobs still aren't being dispatched.
willio58 3 minutes ago||
> Despite that, jobs still aren't being dispatched

Meaning your alternative provider is also facing massive outages?

I hear many complaints about github these days due to outages. I am genuinely curious if anyone has switched recently to a competitor for this and gets more uptime?

jerrygenser 35 minutes ago||
github action implements other providers by essentially a request to your runner. so if actions go down, the action supervising your different provider would likely not run so you're going to have an outage anyway
gxcsoccer 24 minutes ago|
CI stands for Continuous Idling ....
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