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Posted by jgx0 1 day ago

Example.com just launched the biggest redesign in decades(www.debugbear.com)
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chews 1 day ago||
it's nice, and it surprised me when I saw the redesign.... I use it to navigate into captive wifi portals that always seem to be misconfigured.
justinpombrio 18 hours ago||
I've used http://www.com for that.
ButlerianJihad 23 hours ago||
Same here! Yes, I used it as the well-known site that supported unencrypted http and no HSTS. Yes, I was one of those guys using the site "as a service" rather than simply documentation. Admittedly, it was perhaps interchangeable with other sites, but since it reliably worked for that purpose, I couldn't be arsed to find other ones.

Isn't there a dedicated site called nohttps or something? NeverSSL? I just tried http NeverSSL, and it redirected me to an https page with a random hostname and an Amazon SSL certificate!

Does example.com still function this way, with http and no HSTS? I noticed that my Chrome browser was immediately redirected in the customary way.

drdeca 23 hours ago||
http://neverssl.com/online/ seems to work for me?

Are you perhaps on an untrusted network which is spoofing that url to make it redirect somewhere else?

Arainach 22 hours ago|||
No, NeverSSL changed to have SSL a while back - around the time that Chrome/Firefox started throwing big warning signs and/or blocking non-https pages.
red369 22 hours ago||
Wait, are you saying neverssl.com now sometimes uses SSL?

If this is a joke, it's over my head. If not, I'm not knowledgeable enough in this space to pass judgement, but that would seem crazy to me. Like the owner should consider a domain name change :)

notpushkin 17 hours ago||
It has SSL on the main domain, and some subdomains without SSL (wildcard perhaps?). The main domain (when accessed over SSL?) redirects to a subdomain with plain HTTP.

Kinda weird setup!

Edit: okay, the subdomains also have SSL. I guess the random subdomain thing is to make sure it hasn’t been cached in a “this site has HTTPS” list. The HTTPS is needed, of course, to please the browser makers, as the parent says.

bobbean 22 hours ago||||
http://http.rip/ is one I use
DaSHacka 10 hours ago||
Wow finally, a "no ssl" site that actually doesn't use SSL! I was so disappointed when "NEVERssl" added SSL, like you literally have ONE job. Some clients automatically upgrade http->https or prepend https if left unspecified, so it's nice to have an explicitly HTTP-only (IE port 80-only) service for testing/captive portals.

This is very useful, thanks for sharing!

what 22 hours ago|||
My browser (iOS safari) just takes me to the ssl version from that link, so “never ssl” seems wrong?
onedognight 18 hours ago||
http://example.com/ works for me in Safari, warning that the site is “not secure”, but only if I type it in by hand.
pranshuchittora 16 hours ago||
Andddd it broke all my EVALs... ;)
grugdev42 15 hours ago||
And example.net!
ButlerianJihad 5 hours ago|
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example.com

example.com, example.net, example.org, and example.edu, along with .example, are all classified as the same type of name, reserved for documentation purposes.

Furthermore, there are IPv4 and IPv6 addresses that are reserved for documentation purposes! You never need to write live addresses, or even private RFC 1918 addresses!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4#Special-use_addresses

ChrisArchitect 23 hours ago||
Previously:

IANA's email about why example.com changed

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49915060

dangoodmanUT 23 hours ago||
the copy on example.com looks llm-generated now...
nilslindemann 18 hours ago||
I find the text shown on this site passive agressive.

When a newbie learning programming sees this message, then this is a downer.

"Hello World from example.com [more info]"

notpushkin 17 hours ago||
I find it pretty neutral, if maybe a bit bureaucratic. It explains what this domain does, and what it’s not supposed to be used for – that’s it.
nilslindemann 16 hours ago||
BTW, a "background:white;" for the body improves things. But still, the versions from 2013 or 2019 are much better in my opinion.
notpushkin 14 hours ago||
I think the previous versions didn’t really have a goal to discourage people from relying on example.com as infrastructure? *shrug*
reddalo 16 hours ago||
>When a newbie learning programming

A newbie shouldn't test their programs using example.com

nilslindemann 16 hours ago||
Nonsense. One may very well explain to a newbie how to link to an external site using example.com as target. Though I would not do it, with that layout. I would link to Google probably.
gumby 23 hours ago||
Static test is still, IMHO best, but if they want that fancy transition they could at least have used a gif. All that js is terrible overkill.
Barbing 20 hours ago||
The language translation animation only lasted a few days. Now it’s static with English at the top and translations below.
bossyTeacher 18 hours ago||
It's English at the top for you. The top language depends on your browser settings afaik.
notpushkin 17 hours ago|||
You understand that the GIF would be larger than the JS, right? (Apart from other problems with this idea.)
Arainach 22 hours ago||
Overkill for a web of humans loading sites in browsers. Not overkill for a dead internet with swarms of agents DDoSing everything in sight.
hidelooktropic 1 day ago||
It's down?
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