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Posted by librasteve 9 hours ago

House with 15m underground tunnels for sale for 300k(www.readingchronicle.co.uk)
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TYPE_FASTER 8 hours ago|
Cool! Here's another example of a tunnel house: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forestiere_Underground_Gardens
meindnoch 8 hours ago||
Reminds me how rich people in historic areas of London took on the habit of extending their properties downwards, keeping the above-ground parts intact due to conservation laws.

Then everyone acted surprised when entire streets started sinking, or whole buildings collapsed into the ground: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/nov/03/london-stree...

ajb 6 hours ago||
That's because London is on clay. The Reading guy was mostly on chalk (and was himself an engineer). It sounds like the water table was a long way down as well. Soft clay or waterlogged sand are more like digging a hole in a bowl of custard. There are a lot of things that can go wrong - in the case of clay, even if you don't collapse the hole the clay can expand for years afterwards ("heave").
cortesoft 6 hours ago||
Doing underground expansion correctly won’t cause streets to sink.
dotancohen 8 hours ago||
That 15 meters underground, not 15 million tunnels.
rzzzt 8 hours ago||
The title is "not even" clickbait, just very confusing.

"The unique complex contains more than 1,300 square feet of underground space, including tunnels and storage rooms - and even a hand-built railway."

(Edit: I mean the original article, not the submission)

librasteve 8 hours ago||
well I (the submitter) messed up and wrote 15M in the submission title (note the cap) in error just to add to the confusion (now fixed, soz.) … I thought “best” just to repeat the article title
rzzzt 8 hours ago||
No worries, I take issue with the person who concocted the original title. I got here after the capital-M change and it was still confusing that they didn't mention the space that was dug out at this depth, instead paint a picture of a system of tunnels under a normal house(?)
dotancohen 6 hours ago||
To add to the confusion, my nation is today fighting against an enemy which did on fact dig hundreds of kilometres of underground tunnels under homes.
librasteve 8 hours ago||
sorry for the capital M … I have fixed in the title to 15m as in metres

that’s ~ 45 ft underground, I believe … perhaps not that impressive, but quite funny since I would hesitate to undermine my own house and surely this makes it worth less

TheOtherHobbes 8 hours ago||
300k in Tilehurst for a house with a pool is incredibly cheap.

[Looks at interior photos]

Ah. Anyway.

Curious how he got planning permission. Or if he got planning permission.

overfeed 3 hours ago|
> Curious how he got planning permission. Or if he got planning permission.

The answer lies in your first sentence:

> 300k in Tilehurst for a house with a pool is incredibly cheap.

Luc 8 hours ago||
What are those dark brown cylinder shapes in the sides of the roughly hewn tunnel (first image on the right)?
zulux 8 hours ago|
My hunch: Sound-deadening baffles.
rzerowan 7 hours ago||
Hm i dont know ,if they were MY tunnels i would be ok with them there.Someone elses tunnels just rub me the wrong way , like stepping in someone elses house with the furniture still there.
jvanderbot 8 hours ago||
would love to see the radon measurements in those tunnels/basement.
fred_is_fred 8 hours ago|
Is that an issue in the UK?
manarth 8 hours ago|||
In granite bedrock areas such as Cornwall, yes, radon is a significant concern that requires measurement and usually remediation (extraction fans).

The chalk bedrock in Reading isn't generally susceptible to radon.

UK radon mapping data: https://www.ukradon.org/information/ukmaps

globular-toast 6 hours ago||
The map shows Reading does have some radon. Probably not at such a level most people do anything about it, but for a basement you'd definitely be better safe than sorry.
hermitcrab 8 hours ago||||
It is in some areas with a lot of granite, such as Cornwall. I'm not aware it is a factor in Reading.
wafflemaker 8 hours ago||
Granite tends to contain Radon as it's in the decay chain of Uranium, which is often found in Granite.
jvanderbot 8 hours ago||||
It comes out of the ground. UK has some of that I think.

Tunnels and basements just trap it so it can't blow away.

louthy 8 hours ago|||
Very much so.
aeve890 8 hours ago||
15 meters deep underground in 4 levels, not just a 15 meters long tunnel.
WillAdams 6 hours ago|
>1,300 square feet of underground space, including tunnels and storage rooms - and even a hand-built railway.
traxler 8 hours ago||
This misses the most important question.

Why is it for sale?

conductr 7 hours ago||
Says it’s vacant. Says guy started in the 80s. Going to deduce he is/was older and moving on for any number of normal reasons. Why is the reason so important?
b3lvedere 7 hours ago|||
Looking at the pictures, my best guess is that the maintenance has been an issue for some time.
werdnapk 8 hours ago|
So you just go digging under neighbours properties? What about underground infrastructure?
Sharlin 8 hours ago||
I don’t think it extends beyond property limits.
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