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Posted by joshuawright11 4 hours ago

GPT‑6 and Intelligent UI for everyone(openai.com)
354 points | 168 commentspage 2
program_whiz 1 hour ago|
Honestly it feels like AI companies are still searching for the killer idea that will attract the general public (beyond "be my AI bf" or "better google").

Getting a UI that explains the parts of a bike is ok I guess, but isn't it simpler to get an actual breakdown? Google "parts of bicycle breakout" gets tons of useful images instantly.

Getting a specialized app to split a bill? It was already trivial to put in a calculator if we cared to go item by item on the bill. Having to provide names and tag every item as I go is just more work. Usually real people just go $total divide by 5, I had more, let me chip in an extra $10.

Same with booking travel and wedding plans, these aren't things people would even delegate to a trusted friend usually, much less a one-off request to an AI bot or custom UI.

Most of the useful tasks it can do right now are research, technical question/answer, coding. In terms of "build a flexible ui that solves real-world problem", if existing mobile app isn't useful in this arena, then its unlikely a completely custom UI will do the job.

That said, I've done a few small ones like a quick one to practice alphabet of a foreign language, or prototyping a web game, and the like. But ultimately its nothing that is worth trillions of dollars.

kingstnap 3 hours ago||
GPT-6's design sense is kind of ridiculous imo.

I have explicit instructions to tone it down. Less taglines, eyebrow text, subheadings, decorative spacing, pills, cards.

Hopefully this doesn't bleed into the chat...

apsurd 2 hours ago||
yes the eyebrow is the tell. I never knew anything about eyebrows in design as I am not a designer. Now they are everywhere. Everything has an eyebrow. It is ridiculous but at least it is an AI smoking gun.
yuchi 1 hour ago||
I loved them and I placed them a lot in my designs — if you also include my love for em dashes you can well understand that I feel my own character has become a clanker…
briga 3 hours ago||
More UI elements == more tokens == more money for OpenAI

It's a pretty clever way to sell more tokens, I have to admit

wvenable 3 hours ago||
Except that chat is a fixed monthly fee. More tokens = more cost for them.
dwood_dev 2 hours ago|||
Not for enterprise users, they pay per token, even on chatgpt.com.
briga 2 hours ago|||
Not on enterprise accounts.
ddxv 2 hours ago||
I'm curious to see how useful this is. I feel like in practice the existing versions of this feel like they get in the way. While I'm sure I've had some situations where a visual would be helpful, there are two situations where I do not want it:

1) I want a quick answer, and I don't care for the boilerplate UI. For example, if I ask how to make pancakes, I make them all the time and just want to a quick reminder on the ratios, but it might trigger a full UI that I need to sort through to find information.

2) If I ask a to me unrelated to UI question and it triggers a big UI build that is completely off topic for my question (meaning I'm desperately pressing the stop button and prepping rewriting my query)

Or the other one I see, for example if I look up a unix command like:

"ls all hidden files in the /xxx directory"

And I get back:

"Sorry, I am am unable to find /xxx in my current environment"

Tiberium 3 hours ago||
I find it extremely strange that they're adding GPT-6 Sol to Chat over GPT-6.1 Sol which is significantly more capable.
xpct 3 hours ago||
I really don't like having to open Work sessions for one-off questions, only because they're limiting what models they put in the chat. The older models are just too dumb for some things.
zamadatix 3 hours ago||
The whole Work/Chat/Codex split is maddening in the way it's implemented. It's a pain to switch back to the right project, it's a pain to switch forward, it's a pain to try to remember which chat was in what.
MikhailTal 3 hours ago|||
6.1 is Astra minor. Way more capable but also way heavier+slower. Its really 2 different models, they just shipped it as sol to recover from the gpt6 disaster lunch, where they tried to pass terra 6(or a cheaper model) as sol but it was worse than expected
sscaryterry 3 hours ago||
Anecdotally this is what I experienced, do you have sources for this?
spijdar 2 hours ago||
It's purely circumstantial, but 6 Sol supports no reasoning (same as 6 Luna and 5.6 Sol/Luna), while both Astra and 6.1 Sol do not support "reasoning = none".
wincy 3 hours ago|||
I’ve hit model not available limits for GPT 6.1 Sol multiple times over the last week. It’s never for very long, and I can switch to Astra, but it seems like OpenAI is struggling with capacity. This has happened with my personal $200 Pro connection and my Codex enterprise connection.
0xFluegel 1 hour ago||
I had a codex session stop in the middle because the auto-reviewer timed out with something like "auto-review not available at the moment". The capacity issues are very clearly observable since gpt6-astra launched.
exitb 3 hours ago||
Given the extreme short time between 6 Sol and 6.1 Sol, I suspect they don’t actually have much in common and 6.1 is a heavier model rebranded as Sol in a panic response to poor agentic capabilities of 6.
ismael_rr 2 hours ago||
I suspect that 6 sol was a better version of 5.6 terra (and note that in the 6 sol and luna release, they took out terra, and price 6 sol at 5.6 terra pricing), then the backlash from lesser capabilities made them roll out 6.1 sol as the actual 5.6 sol - size modee.
efields 1 hour ago||
The medium is the message here. As others have said, chat output largely sucks for anything but the most basic responses and we've done little to improve upon that foundational UI in the last couple years. We've _added_ a lot for specific domains like coding and document editing, but the primary content normal users get back from the chats is verbose and uninteresting. This is a step in the right direction.

Gettin closer to fully dynamic interfaces for a lot of software. Hell, give me a mode in Google Docs that takes every pixel of chrome away then vibe the rest as I need it. Persist across new documents going forward.

speedgoose 1 hour ago||
For once Gemini did it first. I never found those mini GUIs useful though. More like a waste of time and energy.
soundworlds 1 hour ago||
I am pretty convinced that businesses will be making custom internal software as a norm in the next few years, and this seems to be a slight push in that direction
overcast 27 minutes ago|
Alright doing it here, all the functionality we need and no reoccurring yearly costs of tens of thousands of dollars. Took me a couple weeks to wire it all up with codex.
gessha 1 hour ago||
This seems like a step towards their plan for building a platform in competition of Google/Apple. Once the generative UIs are polished and more useful than individual apps, their hardware can now ship a device which circumvents the app store moat.
throwaway7783 4 hours ago||
Is this OpenAI catching up with Anthropic artifacts? At the same time they say "We’ve trained GPT‑6 to compose responses using text, visuals and interactive elements...", rather than a harness.
dbacar 2 hours ago|
We are becoming more and more as a tool for sth to be done rather than the brain behind it. At least I start to feel this way. The joy of discovery, exploration and experiencing at first hand... It is slowly diminishing for the perfection of the quick outcome.
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