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Posted by speckx 11 hours ago

Beauty in DVD Menus(vale.rocks)
246 points | 144 commentspage 5
time4tea 2 hours ago|
Disney - and others - absolutely disgusting behaviour making children watch almost an hour of ads before showing a movie.

The Internet video store gave a much better product.

When you paid for the product, you were exploited.

jonathanlydall 9 hours ago||
Not really menus, but related to the “programmability” of DVDs, my “favourite” “feature” was unskippable videos which would show before the feature.

This was used to reward people who had actually paid for the movie with being forced to endure obnoxious and long “you wouldn’t steal a car” anti-piracy appeals before they could watch the main feature.

An interesting effect of them doing this is that it made the pirated version of the product objectively better than the legal version. Great thinking by movie studios.

dcw303 10 hours ago||
The battle between form and function was never clearer than in the era of DVD menus. The viewers function objective (start watching the movie as quickly as possible) is at direct odds with the creator's form objective (steal the viewer's time to expose them to my "creation")
kalleboo 9 hours ago|
There was a period before 24/7 internet access when some of us were bored enough to sit and explore DVD menus because there wasn't anything else to do.

It was a huge upgrade from sitting and exploring TeleText https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teletext

nekusar 10 hours ago||
Yeah, too bad Jellyfin doesnt have a way to parse a DVD and make menus. That way, I could be a better archivalist.

Normally I just convert the largest title too the name of the movie, and put the rest in extras, so Jelly can pick all the extra content up.

SeaGully 7 hours ago||
This is a thing I want to try and do. I do the same thing as you are the moment (mainly to convert things to the much more efficient mp4 instead of what you natively get from, e.g., MakeMKV) just throw the movie in as a single file, and then all the rest into appropriately named extras.

But I do try and save the (usually pretty small) menus just in case I can figure out how to get them running at some point. VLC can run the menu with the large videos stripped out. I still need to check, but I assume I could create a single iso file that would run as a "menu." I guess I'll see.

ks2048 8 hours ago|||
I worked on this problem a little bit. Unfortunately, it's not really a matter of simple "parsing" - the DVD menu is really a program with an entire virtual machine (IMO overly confusing and complicated).

You basically have to implement the VM, which may lead to legal problems (?)

But, VLC does this (via libdvdnav and libdvdread), so I'm not sure why more don't.

NickCalabs 10 hours ago|||
I've also been wishing Jellyfin has this. I've not tested it myself but a friend shared this plex competitor which apparently supports DVD menus: https://ampchor.com/
floydnoel 10 hours ago|||
some software could just open a DVD ISO, so I used that as the backup format when I wanted to retain menus. XBMC and it's derivatives could open them over the network share iirc.
kalleboo 10 hours ago||
VLC can do DVD menus as well, either from an ISO or a VIDEO_TS folder.
chocochunks 10 hours ago||
Kodi can remotely play DVD ISOs. It does mean you get no compression though.
SpaceL10n 9 hours ago||
My wife and I both agree that we miss DVD menus. They felt like artistic expressions made with pride (in some cases). New movies would come out and break the mold and deliver a new flashy menu experience. I looked forward to popping in a new DVD and hoping, pleading to the universe, please...give me a great DVD menu! Mini-games, Easter eggs, and the like...

I miss them.

SpaceL10n 9 hours ago|
Case in point: The Shrek DVD had an Easter Egg hidden in the menu that made the three little pigs interactive.
valgaze 10 hours ago||
- "secret" menus

- randomized menu backgrounds/environments

jedbrooke 9 hours ago||
One dvd menu game I remember fondly from when I was a kid was the games in Robots (2005).

IIRC there was a game (maybe more than one?) about picking parts as they went by on a conveyor belt in order to build a robot. At the end it would play a little animation based on the parts you chose, if you missed parts or chose bad/incompatible parts, the robot would break down in hilarious fashion.

westurner 9 hours ago||
Tangentially, Is it possible to lase circuits with a LightScribe DVD burner?
functionmouse 9 hours ago||
> In NTSC regions video on DVD almost always has a resolution of 720 × 480 pixels

This always irritated me. So presumably, television content was mastered and broadcast at 640x480, and then the x axis was scaled by a factor of 1.125 to fit 720 columns?

spiderfarmer 10 hours ago|
I never quite understood who made those menus. I think 95% of them were absolutely hideous, just like early webdesign.
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