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Posted by Anon84 13 hours ago

Nobel Peace Prize for 2026 to Navanethem Pillay(www.nobelprize.org)
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hparadiz 12 hours ago|
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khalic 12 hours ago||
You mean war criminals like Netanyahu?
xg15 12 hours ago||
Get out of the Israeli bubble please...
cramer4next 12 hours ago||
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dudefeliciano 12 hours ago||
No, being in a bubble means being disconnected from the broader reality.
cramer4next 12 hours ago||
Not from my perspective. Being in bubble means your lacking experience and living a sheltered life. Reality is subjective to ones view.
dudefeliciano 12 hours ago||
> lacking experience and living a sheltered life.

Hence "Israeli Bubble", sheltered from the reality of their (government/army) actions, convinced to be the most moral army in the world.

> Reality is subjective to ones view.

Maybe your subjective reality, that's your thoughts and feelings. But there is an objective reality, like tens of thousands of children killed, the use of a starvation campaign in Gaza, all of Gaza City being turned to rubble which you can see for yourself on google maps satellite view, and many more such war crimes that have been factually proven.

cramer4next 11 hours ago||
I'm still confused how this has anything to do with a noble prize?

Secondly did you ever watch the aftermath of the U.S dropping atomic bombs on Japan? How many children were killed? How many innocent people suffered? Thats the "reality" of war.

netsharc 10 hours ago||
Not the person you were conversing with, but: Sheesh, how dismissive of the tens of thousands of dead (both in Gaza and in Japan).

If you want to claim to be more civilized than Hamas and their cheerleaders, not being angry when "your side" doesn't take all effort to kill civilians is not how to do it.

Some in Palestine cheered when 7 October happened. Some cheered when 9/11 happened. If you ask them "how can you, those innocents died for no reason" and they replied "That's the 'reality' of war", how would you feel?

And if you consider them uncivilized barbarics for not caring, how do you view yourself? Ah yeah of course you're different, you're on the "right side", and for you "it's fine" (or "it's reality of war") when the "wrong" innocents die...

cramer4next 10 hours ago||
How am I being dismissive? I simply stated two things around the discussion of "bubble" and "reality". I made no opinion or view, rather I defined bubble and stated the reality of what war really is.

Nothing I said is about whats wrong or right. I simply pointed out historical facts. The same way the original comment I replied to.

Innocent people everyday are victims in a system they have absolutely no control over. Especially in cases of war and international affairs. None of these statements reflect any of my personal feelings or passing a judgement on any grouping of people.

mvelbaum 12 hours ago||
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gyanchawdhary 10 hours ago||
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ks2048 10 hours ago||
> "At this point"

Of the original 5 Nobel prize categories, 2 were always not about science.

fuzzfactor 10 hours ago|||
That's what I was thinking.

I'm a lifelong scientist but it should be obvious that the Peace Prize is supposed to be bigger than science.

nashashmi 7 hours ago||
Science and economics contributes to weapons. This prize was the odd ball to counter weapons with peace
gyanchawdhary 7 hours ago||
yes, love is the answer to everything
gyanchawdhary 10 hours ago|||
yes ... but who is she? and what has she actually done?

for comparison, i knew nothing about margaret hamilton or bill draper before reading their obituaries on HN this month. it literally took a few sentences to understand what legends they were .. not just in their respective domains, but in terms of their broader impact on humanity ..

with this navi lady, i've scrolled through two pages of text and still don't have a clear picture of what she actually DID to deserve whatever greatness the Nobel seems to bestow upon her.

i mean, if you can't even explain to a layman, in plain english, what someone actually DID to earn a prize of this stature .. without resorting to a laundry list of causes and buzzwords ... then what exactly are we rewarding here ? Her kindness ? Decency ? Morality ? wtf

prometheus1992 9 hours ago|||
you seem pissed that they wasted a noble on someone that you don't approve of. do you not think that it might be YOU who might not have the ability to understand every field with as much clarity as you understand software after reading a few lines.
gyanchawdhary 9 hours ago||
emmmm .. but not understanding a fieled fully doesnt mean we cant expect a clear explanation of why someone deserves its highest honour ..

ps: im not a software guy

mda 4 hours ago||||
You didn't understand her accomplishments and merits so she doesn't deserve it. Oh my, maybe ask your favorite llm for an eli5 then?
gyanchawdhary 3 hours ago||
i actually fired my sw devs thanks to llms .. so maybe your idea is not bad afterall ..
mda 1 hour ago||
Dont forget to add "in really really simple terms" to your prompt.
nsriv 9 hours ago||||
The announcement pretty clearly lays out what she's done to earn it, acknowledging that while international law isn't perfect, the fact-finding process of its practice is important and sets a precedent for continued adherence to legal principles. Her devotion to that practice and influence on introducing sexual assault and propaganda as charges of incitement to genocide are significant contributions backed by legal victories she was instrumental in winning.

My opinion is that yes, while international law rarely leads to punitive justice as many would like to see it executed, bad actors attacking these legal institutions demonstrate their importance in the court of public opinion and legitimacy.

Hope that gave you some Gyan, Mr. Chawdhary. Please remember that it's a big world out there and human endeavor has many paths to take beyond just science or what one person can understand by skimming an announcement.

gyanchawdhary 9 hours ago||
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jmye 9 hours ago|||
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Reubachi 10 hours ago||
I suggest looking at the original Nobel* awards before deriding "modern politics" as a boogyman
alexnewman 10 hours ago||
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ReptileMan 11 hours ago||
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jeltz 11 hours ago|
Yes, but what has that to do with this year's winner?
ReptileMan 10 hours ago||
Everything. She hasn't contributed to world peace. She has not stopped wars, she has not prevented them, south africa is not more peaceful than it was before.

Just rename the award to whatever - being outstanding human, standing up for human rights or whatever.

If Putin decides to freeze or stop the war in Ukraine tomorrow he will contribute more to world peace objectively than last 10 of the winners combined. Should we give him award too?

_djo_ 8 hours ago||
What does the condition of South Africa have to do with her? She doesn't run it and never has.

Though South Africa is, since 1994, a peaceful neighbour that has worked steadfastly to end and prevent wars on the African continent. Unlike the situation during Apartheid.

baggy_trough 8 hours ago||
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bigyabai 6 hours ago|
Thanks for your laconic, unexplained virtue signal of a response.
throwfaraway135 12 hours ago||
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gpvos 12 hours ago||
It is, like many things, how much meaning you attach to it yourself. Apparently Donald T. thinks it's very important, he makes a lot of fuss about it.

Anyway, the NPP is one of the things that tries to push humanity on a broad scale in a better direction, and I'm grateful for that. It is important to at least speak out about injustice, and to celebrate those who do so, otherwise those injustices are never going to be fixed (I'm not even talking about punishing, although that should be done).

throwfaraway135 10 hours ago||
I get the sentiment, but if you hijack peoples attention by pretending "look we are civilized, we have humanitarian organizations" instead showing the ugly reality, this in my book is worse.
gpvos 8 hours ago||
Fair enough, too many western countries including my government keep supporting countries perpetrating war crimes/genocide (often ignoring popular sentiment btw).

And luckily we have journalism prizes as well, often for people showing the ugly reality.

CaptWorld 11 hours ago||
Don't tell me that you think there's genocide in gaza?
steinvakt2 10 hours ago|||
Look at any recent pictures. Gaza was basically nuked
avh02 10 hours ago||
hamas tunnels under everything. /s
throwfaraway135 10 hours ago|||
I would describe it more of a massacre/war crimes, you can't compare it to something like the East Timur genocide, that said it is going on for a long time.
FabHK 7 hours ago||
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737min 8 hours ago||
Good read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_Tigers_of_Tamil_Eel...
khalic 12 hours ago|
A clear FU to the Cheeto, love it
commandlinefan 4 hours ago||
Has she openly opposed Trump? I don't recognize the name, and the linked article is pretty vague.
heyitsmedotjayb 8 hours ago||
next year it should go to a heckin pupper!
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