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Posted by ilreb 11 hours ago

Cloudflare acquires Deno(deno.com)
1011 points | 523 commentspage 4
JaceComix 10 hours ago|
Node always felt so annoying to deal with. I was really excited when Bun and Deno were coming up. Pour one out.
rootnod3 8 hours ago||
All of this just re-informed my believe to stay with true and tested systems that have survived decades. C if I fell confident and Common Lisp otherwise. Both standardized, have been around for ages, and they don’t disappoint.

I feel bad for anyone that now relies on Deno. And as good as Cloudflare might be for some things, I also feel bad for anyone relying on them.

jppope 8 hours ago||
This is a real bummer. Work never adopted Deno but I love their model, security posture, and the standard library. I've been less interested in typescript recently, but it has turned into the default for frontend.

On the plus side, cloudflare will get access to some fantastic talent, who can hopefully put their effort into building a better web.

mysterydip 5 hours ago||
I just learned of Deno yesterday when setting up some software for the first time. I wonder how many applications depend on it behind the scenes?
6thbit 9 hours ago||
Didn’t they have a flashy lawsuit to free the JavaScript trademark? What happens to that now?

No indication cloudflare would pursue that yet that I see.

readyp1 7 hours ago||
It looks like, after Oracle kept on pushing out the deadline for a certain step in the suit process, the parties are in settlement negotiations now [0]; the motion was granted [1], so we might see more info after October 28th.

[0] https://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=92086835&pty=CAN&eno... [1] https://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=92086835&pty=CAN&eno...

askonomm 5 hours ago||
Pretty sure that was just for marketing.
aravindputrevu 9 hours ago||
Last year it was bun, and now it is - Deno!

What's happening to JS platforms? I thought Deno has a much better approach to building a platform.

afavour 8 hours ago||
> What's happening to JS platforms?

They took on VC funding.

SenHeng 8 hours ago||
People need to eat and pay rent. Can’t survive on just goodwill.

https://theoatmeal.com/comics/exposure

agp2572 9 hours ago||
This shows that there was no money to be made in their business model and they had to sell to make up for the years or losses accumulated.
amber71de 8 hours ago|
Does anyone know how many paying Deploy customers there were? The post only offers migration help to paying customers and gives them six months, which makes me think the number is small enough to hand-hold. Millions of runtime downloads and a few hundred accounts on a paid plan can both be true, and only the second one pays for a team.
yellow_lead 7 hours ago||
Remember "choose boring technology"?

I had to evaluate Deno vs. Bun vs. Node for a project two years ago, and chose Node. I think Deno has good ideas but often times these projects cannot reach escape velocity, especially when they're constrained by VC motives.

dabinat 4 hours ago||
We’re in an interesting time for developer tooling. It’s easier than it’s ever been to develop new tools, but harder to monetize or maintain them. We need to figure out what sustainable OSS looks like in the AI age.
bicepjai 9 hours ago|
Genuine question. Why are companies buying our runtimes ? What is the advantage ? Maintaining open source and having more adoption in specific softwares like runtimes and programming languages helps keep software more robust and reliable right ? Am I getting something wrong.
culi 8 hours ago||
In this specific case, it's probably just aqui-hiring. There's a ton of incredible talent at Deno and Cloudflare can pay them a lot more

Also Deno was starting to try to increase revenue with stuff like Deno Deploy. If Deno did succeed, they would be a direct competitor with Cloudflare Workers

With Bun I think it was basically a marketing ploy. To show that it can be developed by AI and still useful

Quothling 7 hours ago|||
> With Bun I think it was basically a marketing ploy.

I don't know, the vast majority of daily Microsoft Defender offenders I have to wade through, as well as the majority of the intune remidy requests are related to Node being used in various Microsoft applications. The Azure CLI is one of them, but the one which really ranks high on the security risk levels is always something "Agent" or "AI" related folder which I assume are what runs the Copilot and Cowork clients.

I think I had around 800 CVE warnings in relations to Axios in side a Microsoft tool related to AI running node this week, from just 8 devices.

Bun having it's own batteries included is probably a nice benefit to avoid that.

hbn 8 hours ago||||
I think in a case like Bun they're also potentially buying the pre-built goodwill associated with the project.
thayne 8 hours ago|||
I there was also an acquihire component to bun as well.
mattvr 8 hours ago||
In this case, they're explicitly not buying the runtime. They're killing the runtime.
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