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Posted by tosh 5 hours ago

Typesafe AI raises $870M at $7.5B(typesafe.ai)
200 points | 158 commentspage 2
redoxate 4 hours ago|
What edge do they have over the market to justify such evaluation
simonw 4 hours ago||
Probably their team. Ex-OpenAI people who have already proven they can ship and get buzz for what they're doing.
miguelacevedo 3 hours ago||
Same thing was said about Character AI, Cohere, etc. Companies started by the authors of the "Attention is all you need" paper. Look how that went... the team gets thrown around a lot as if it's the magic bullet. There is no magic bullet.
simonw 3 hours ago||
The ex-OpenAI people who started Anthropic are doing pretty great right now.

VC is a hits business. Just one hit pays for 9 that didn't work out.

denverllc 2 hours ago||
Anthropic's Series A was $124 million; Typesafe's is 7x that. If Jev becomes a $2bn company it will be a failure to investors.
simonw 1 hour ago||
Anthropic raised their Series A a year and a half before ChatGPT had been released, when LLMs were still unproven technology and most VCs weren't paying attention to the field (they were mostly still chasing crypto).
gavinray 4 hours ago|||
Upvotes and Twitter hype
babelfish 4 hours ago||
100mm arr
jghn 4 hours ago||
Every time I see these headlines I wonder why the Scala company is back in the news
jypepin 4 hours ago||
Their headline says "TypeSafe A raises series AI". Is that AI slope?
throw03172019 3 hours ago||
They also say they are a fun team. Maybe it’s a pun.
ambicapter 3 hours ago||
Jokes all around: https://jobs.ashbyhq.com/typesafe-ai/9a94651c-5d63-4e82-8854...
CompleteSkeptic 3 hours ago||
intentional to make it fun (:
aidos 1 hour ago|||
With everything you must have going on right now, I love that you’ve come on to explain your headline is an intentional joke. All sorts being thrown around in this thread, but this was definitely the important thing to clarify.

For what it’s worth, however it works out, my guess is that the primitive Jev provides is likely to be considered essential in the future development of software.

stephen_cagle 3 hours ago|||
Is it a pun or something? I have been called dense.

I actually resized my browser thinking maybe something weird was going on with flex-wrap or overflow or whatever it is.

rokhayakebe 2 hours ago||
Can someone who actually knows these things share how might a company like this spend $870M over the years?
woadwarrior01 2 hours ago||
I wonder how much of it has been earmarked for astroturfing on HN and X? :D
amelius 3 hours ago||
They already got Sherlocked by OpenAI:

https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/decisions

vilos1611 2 hours ago||
We've tested the decisions API against Jev at work and it's worse in various dimensions. Costs more, higher error rates, slower, and the answers are worse.

A lot of people are shouting about how Jev hasn't actually differentiated itself, but I question how much folks are actually experimenting with what's out there before coming up with an opinion.

For us, it's cleae that OpenAI rushed this out to meet the hype in the market right now without having a product that actually meets the bar Jev has set.

denverllc 2 hours ago||
> but I question how much folks are actually experimenting with what's out there

I did. Originally I had a project that I had been wanting to do and thought to use a decision model for it. Jev, OpenAI, etc. are all within percentage points of each other.

Then I used traditional ML and found a small classifier (gemma 4) with traditional embeddings worked 2x as well.

Jev is the general purpose ML pipeline for when you want average results. Nearly every application has a "better" option available with a small amount of work.

benatkin 3 hours ago||
They weren't running on OpenAI, so nope.
kevinkatzke 2 hours ago||
A few year ago you could IPO at this valuation.
maxdo 3 hours ago||
interestingly , it destroy the landscape of Chinese models.

Unless china takes leadership in frontier space the picture is next :

1. cheap workhorses for classification, routing, other scenarios : Jev 2. coding agents with less erros : Anthropic/Openai, etc. 3. Science /Legal/Medical : A mixture of Jev+Anthropic scenarios

kylehotchkiss 1 hour ago|
See clef
collimarco 2 hours ago||
This looks like the top of the dot-com bubble...
mococa 3 hours ago|
~7B for a thing that we already have open-source?
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