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Posted by smilelamp 1 hour ago

Lobbying(geohot.github.io)
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thelastgallon 1 hour ago|
> Bribery is super illegal in America.

Not anymore! Just change the order!

Supreme Court Rules Bribes are Fine if You’re Paid Later: https://afj.org/article/supreme-court-rules-bribes-are-fine-...

osti 1 hour ago||
I think in Canada lobbying is much more limited, so it's probably not due to democracy that we get lobbying.
tudelo 1 hour ago||
Well you see, money = speech. And you propose to limit that??? Preposterous!
dead_hn_theory 1 hour ago|
Vote with your wallet, they say. And how thy do!
asdfaoeu 1 hour ago||
Lobbying is definitely not an exclusive American thing.

Lobbying is also different to bribery even if some bribery is done under the label of lobbying.

transitorykris 1 hour ago||
Are the bribes better in other countries because they don't have a funny euphemism and carried out loosely in public?
Canada 1 hour ago||
In what democracy is the government and the opposition not completely owned by lobbyist money these days?
matkoniecz 59 minutes ago|
Everywhere where you have democracy?

Yes, I strictly interpreted "completely".

thatslast 1 hour ago||
How does lobbying work in Asia ?
rdm_blackhole 1 hour ago||
This is a very poorly researched article, as if lobbying was an American thing when it is something that happens all over the world especially in Europe.

Did you know there are 30000++ lobbyists in Brussels? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/08/lobbyists-euro...

That's 40 lobbyists for every EU parliament member.

Finally, lobbying is not a bad thing per se. Take the Chat Control issue that the EU has been pushing down the throat of its citizens for the last 5 years, the worst aspects of it have been watered down (slightly) because of citizens lobbying their MPs to defend their privacy rights.

Everyone can become a lobby and make their voices heard and that is how it's supposed to work.

ur-whale 49 minutes ago|
Look the guy over is doing it too!

Not guilty your honor.

Some argument dude.

davesque 1 hour ago||
Does any American actually think this way about lobbying?
georgemcbay 1 hour ago|
I agree with the absurdity of it all, but also we're already so far beyond garden variety Citizens United-enabled SuperPAC bribery at this point and things just keep getting increasingly corrupt.

The President of the United States routinely pardons people of federal criminal charges in exchange for large sums of money. He does it right out in the open.

There are credible reasons to believe the administration will attempt to nullify the results of the upcoming midterm elections if they go as badly for the Republicans as it seems they will, and who knows what the hell will happen in 2028.

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