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Posted by thm 7 hours ago

How Protein Took over the World(www.ft.com)
https://archive.is/CbkfI
47 points | 113 commentspage 2
surfmike 6 hours ago|
> setting a daily target of 1.2–1.6 grammes per kilogramme of body weight, 50-100 per cent above the longstanding recommended dietary allowance of 0.8g

This is a good range for improving for maintaining your body composition; preserving or building muscle. Fitness coaches are recommending 2.2g/lb (1g per lb) or even more which doesn't have much scientific backing. 1.6g/kg seems to be the max that will benefit muscle gain.

On the other hand, there are some (Valter Longo, biologist at UCLA) who say that such high protein will reduce your overall longevity. He recommends 0.36g protein per lb body weight.

I don't know what to do with this info. Personally, I stay around 1.2g protein/lb (and exercise) as a middle ground.

happytoexplain 6 hours ago|
> 2.2g/lb (1g per lb)

Did you mean 2.2g/kg?

anjel 2 hours ago||
Hope you like cricket flour!
armchairhacker 1 hour ago|
Actually, I believe bugs have been tried and turn out less efficient than whatever we have now. I believe soy is cheapest.
tweetle_beetle 51 minutes ago|||
There's massive variation across insect species, relatively little research and no industrialisation on the scale of current farming. It's not useful to generalise all insects and all production techniques simply to "bugs are less efficient".

In a study of 236 edible species, protein content of dry matter ranged from 6% to 77%. [1]

And a study of a particular grasshopper found it had higher protein content than lamb, beef, pork, chicken, turkey and fish [2].

[1] https://scholar.google.com/scholar_lookup?title=Nutritional+....

[2] https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00217-019-03383-0

whycome 28 minutes ago|||
less efficient in what way? you could probably raise crickets in a smaller space and with less resources.
al_borland 2 hours ago||
I had been seeing the protein marketing push and largely ignored it, until I went to go buy some protein powder and it was triple the price of what I expected/remembered. I went to look at that time and found this as the answer.

I'm annoyed by it, but like every other food fad, I assume it will be temporary... unless GLP-1s make it a mainstay. I also wonder if we'll see prices return to normal if demand goes down, or if this is the new normal and companies will just pocket the margin.

mawadev 6 hours ago||
If I go to the store, I can buy extra protein milk, it is the most absurd product. Its like taking vitamin pill supplement tier marketing
redanddead 5 hours ago||
Genuinely, we were all deficient for so long

Look at our fucking food! We have smooth brained governance in food, why do we still have real sugar in candy when we can (AND DO) use fake sugar.

We of course fucked up protein intake, this is a CORRECTION towards healthier food as it always should have fucking been

We literally have 1/8 of the US population, and possibly hundreds of millions of people globally, on fucking peptides to protect themselves from the insane food we don’t want to regulate

xnx 1 hour ago|
What's "real" vs. "fake" sugar? Should we be adding sugar at all?
redanddead 42 minutes ago||
There are lots of healthy sweeteners

And fair the petulant need we have for sweetness is probably a result of the bad programming we had as kids consuming this junk.

This is the majority of people, and it’s getting worse, society is noticeably getting fatter

cosmotic 5 hours ago||
Except in China where it's very hard to find protien supplements or lean meat. I visited two years ago and really struggled.
smooc 2 hours ago||
Now, why would eggs be so expensive?
iJohnDoe 2 hours ago||
100% due to marketing, influencers, and people wanting to make money.

I remember reading an article from a couple that were professional body builders. It was pretty insightful. I also will not forget that they said they never once drank protein shakes. All of their protein came from their diets, such as eating turkey and other foods.

Also, most people don’t work out hard enough to need a protein shake. It’s usually just extra calories and ultimately turning into fat.

JTbane 6 hours ago|
I mean this is not a bad thing, I personally feel more sated eating protein-enriched food and am less likely to snack excessively.