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Posted by Zeekaas 10 hours ago

Hackers activate automatic defrosting in supermarket fridges across Europe(www.tomshardware.com)
https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/french-supe..., https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crq5nzxv9q4yo, https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2026/10/12/french-s...

Related:

https://www.claroty.com/team82/research/freeze-the-controlle...

I think the military commissary's freezers were hacked - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49508506 - Aug 2026 (239 comments)

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red_admiral 4 hours ago|
Meanwhile Samsung doesn't even need hackers - a firmware update on consumer devices is enough: https://www.tomshardware.com/service-providers/samsungs-disa...
user2722 3 hours ago|
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rbn3 1 hour ago||
TIL what „data diodes“ are after discussing this incident with a friend and quickly brainstorming a cheap way of airgapping a system with unidirectional comms. We figured two arduinos and optocouplers should do it, turns out if you productize this and get everything certified you can charge up to 20k for it. Crazy!
vintagedave 3 hours ago||
This article theorizing US Army freezers were hacked to defrost, from late August this year - only about six weeks ago! - is prescient. It was posted here on HN.

https://signalandsilence.substack.com/p/i-think-someone-hack...

gusfoo 3 hours ago|
Here is the link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49508506
dang 2 hours ago||
Thanks! Macroexpanded:

I think the military commissary's freezers were hacked - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49508506 - Aug 2026 (239 comments)

usernomdeguerre 7 hours ago||
>Carrefour (CARR.PA), opens new tab said 80 of its supermarkets had been hit but that the vast majority of its 6,000 stores had not been affected.

It would be useful to know the scale, as it sounds very similar to an attack on US Military Commisary's a month ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49508506

Usually i'd feel like this was a large-scale operation but there's no denying that AI tools can copy/parrot/clone this type of work near instantaneously, so who knows.

montjoy 3 hours ago||
> Danfoss said the affected cold units were older models whose security software could not be updated to ward off a risk they had identified.

I feel like this is kind of holding the supermarket hostage and saying, “Sure your freezer is working fine, but if you refuse to buy new freezers from us prepare to get hacked.”

Sure you can argue that the supermarket should have just taken the old freezers offline. But you can also argue that the manufacturer could have supplied software updates but didn’t in order to force sales of newer models.

enoint 58 minutes ago|
If that’s the case, then supermarkets (who are not in the cybersecurity business) should feel good about filing a claim with their insurance. The insurance company can decide whether the freezer maker owes existence-risking damages.
based2 3 hours ago||
Aug 28, 2026 https://signalandsilence.substack.com/p/i-think-someone-hack... I Think The Military Commissary’s Freezers Were Hacked

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49508506

aziaziazi 6 hours ago||
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2026/10/12/french-s...
yborg 3 hours ago||
Doesn't look like this needed a rampant AI, pardon, elite superintelligence:

https://cyberplace.social/@GossiTheDog/117429502412235079

delbronski 4 hours ago||
Supermarkets in the Netherlands were also hit. Seems like a Russian linked attack.
WalterBright 4 hours ago|
These vandals are what creates a low-trust society, where everybody needlessly suffers.

I remember working on my car when I lived in an apartment. I'd take my tools out into the parking lot, and get to work. If I needed to use the potty, or get a snack, or whatever, I had to pack up the tools and take them inside. Then out again. It really stinks.

I currently live in a high trust neighborhood where I don't need to be present with anything outside.

It's so much better.

jimmySixDOF 4 hours ago||
Digital hackers who cause real world harm effects should get treated like the terrorists they are with all that means in terms of the available inerdictions.
r_luna 4 hours ago||
They should be treated as pirates (law of the sea). I think terrorist are charged under piracy laws.
AngryData 3 hours ago|||
Nah, im glad hackers are exposing vulnerabilities in critical infastructure and logistics. Otherwise when some belligerent oligarch or politician or generally wealthy asshole decides they should rule everything they don't have easy avenues to fuck things up.
WalterBright 2 hours ago||
Vulnerabilities can be exposed by reporting them to the vendor.
AngryData 2 hours ago||
Which will then be ignored because it costs money to fix if there are no consequences to not fix it.
WalterBright 1 hour ago||
Do assert that vandals are doing a public service?
chrisjj 2 hours ago|||
> These vandals are what creates a low-trust society, where everybody needlessly suffers.

Um, if everyone needlesly suffered, we'd not have the problem.

Whereas we have in fact generously provided life-enrichment opportunities - to miscreants.

alexashka 3 hours ago||
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