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Posted by vishnukool 5 hours ago

Launch HN: Agent37 (YC F26) – Low-cost agent sandboxes for running agents

Hey HN, I’m Vishnu from Agent37 (https://agent37.com). We build sandboxes for running AI agents at under 10% of the cost of most sandbox providers. Our customers spend an average of $0.37/month per sandbox.

You can view a video walkthrough of the product here: https://youtu.be/DK5ISR2tbNo

We started as one of those OpenClaw wrapper companies back in February (yup.. judge me). In time we added more and more harnesses.

One of the goals I had at the time was to offer a free plan to users, so as to gain more market share. But it was too cost prohibitive to do it right away. Especially since we were bootstrapped and servers were running on my savings.

Today we’re actually able to offer the free plan thanks to the optimizations we’ve made since. Over 90% of the new signups we have are just free plan users and they host their personal Hermes/Openclaw/Claude Code etc on our cloud. Our infrastructure cost for the free sandboxes averages around $0.05 to $0.10 per user per month.

Here are some techniques that have worked for lowering cost:

* When you look at agent harnesses, they have certain patterns in the way they consume CPU and RAM. They need CPU in bursts when they’re initializing or performing certain tasks, but beyond that, they’re often not peaking. They need more RAM for things like browser and computer-use tasks. Once the task is done, usage often comes back down. This is a key insight in lowering cost, so by efficiently managing the CPU/RAM utilization we could lower the cost.

* Secondly, you have to skip the hyperscalers when renting the Hosts. I worked at Amazon before and they have 80-90% margins on VMs. So it was an obvious choice once I looked at the prices to go one layer down to vendors like Hetzner and OVH. This alone was probably one of the biggest cost levers in reducing the cost.

* Thirdly, you also want to pick a technology stack that lets you efficiently cache and share resources across the host. We use gVisor for better utilization and fast boot times. It lets us use available host memory across sandboxes without reserving a full VM’s memory for each one. There are tradeoffs: our gVisor sandboxes don’t support workloads like Docker-in-Docker or Android emulators.

* And finally the size and shape of the hosts you buy also makes a big difference. RAM is typically the bottleneck when it comes to cost and not the CPU. This is specifically true for agent harness workloads, so when buying servers, we optimize for packing more RAM into a given host.

We also host full VM sandboxes for workloads that need them, including running Docker at a slightly higher price, but they are still pretty low cost given the rest of the techniques.

Overall, my learning has been that just by focusing on a niche of sandbox usecases, and optimizing for it you can give a much better cost/performance tradeoff.

I was previously a Senior Software Engineer at Amazon and an Engineering Manager at Quantcast. I built Amazon's internal AI chatbot, Diya, and their internal coding harness, Ziya.

If you’re someone who’s looking to run agents on sandbox and are exploring a sandbox vendor, come check us out. We’re particularly looking for developers building messaging agents to try their workloads and challenge the limits and economics of our platform.

Thanks!

https://agent37.com

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bitlad 5 hours ago|
I had ran into another yc startup from the same batch doing the same thing recently. I think it was called maritime.

YC batch are becoming more like hunger games.

I know a few companies where this is just a feature like digitalocean it is just a feature.

calebkaiser 5 hours ago||
I'd be curious to see stats on overlap among startups by batch historically. My impression is that this has always been a thing. Based on where the market/technology horizon currently is, there are some buckets that are very "startup shaped". Founders who are iterating on ideas using similar criteria will often end up in the same proximity, especially in an accelerator environment. But it would be extremely interesting to see if this has become more prevalent over time, or at least since the explosion in the AI market.
bitlad 4 hours ago||
It is also funny to see folks and friends of the startup commenting and trying to boost this post which is against the guidelines, but thats ok.
vishnukool 3 hours ago|||
hahaha, I suppose it is becoming a bit like hunger games, haha. I was genuinely surprised to see how much overlap there was in the batch across startups.
risyachka 4 hours ago||
Yeah its a race to the bottom as ai can vibe code any infra now
vishnukool 4 hours ago||
hahaha, I think it's the same thing as what's happening with LLMs and token cost.
bitlad 4 hours ago||
Bruh, that's lack of understanding and insight as well as naivety. It is not a race to the bottom. LLM is the winner-takes-all market. Competitors are pricing against each other to come out on top.

Once there is a winner, there will be a price correction.

In your case, positioning yourself as a cheap provider is inherently a bad idea.

vishnukool 3 hours ago|||
This hasn't happened in the sandbox space though. For example Modal was early to it, and yet you see Daytona, E2b and many others doing quite well.

The switching cost is not trivial unlike LLMs

jpadkins 4 hours ago|||
> Once there is a winner, there will be a price correction.

Only if there is some form of lock in or the others go out of business. Both of those are low probability. I'd put a friendly wager on the (lack of) increase of token costs in the next 2 years.

bitlad 10 minutes ago||
It is the first one that everyone in the space is hoping for. When I say "winner takes it all," I am talking from a company's perspective. It is going to be cola vs. Pepsi. Either company chooses cola or Pepsi as their vendor and not both. I believe there will be a duopoly in the models.
invalidOrTaken 5 hours ago||
This is freaking great. Thank you for posting!
vishnukool 4 hours ago|
glad to hear it, thank you!
pranshuchittora 3 hours ago||
Just use EC2 t4g.nano
vishnukool 57 minutes ago|
Interesting, I looked into this. So The t4g.nano is 2 vCPU but only 0.5 GB RAM, so there's that trade off.

And from what I can tell as you bump more RAM, agent37 is around 5x cheaper: our 2 vCPU / 4 GB box is $4.94/mo (2/4/6 GB disk), vs AWS t4g.medium (the actual 2 vCPU / 4 GB Graviton box) at ~$24.50/mo

colesantiago 4 hours ago|
Hi, Vishnu, congrats on the launch.

There is another even cheaper sandbox which is in YC (boat.dev)

How do you compare to them and how are you cheaper then they are?

vishnukool 4 hours ago||
Thank you!

Yeah, this seems like a niche where multiple startups are coming in. But if I remember correctly, we're about 3X cheaper than boat. We did a detailed comparison of all sandbox companies and where we stand across vendors here

https://www.agent37.com/pricing#sources

nlpnerd 4 hours ago|||
What about Maritime.sh (which is also in YC)? I swear everybody in SF is building the same stuff. Lol
alasano 4 hours ago||
Funny I just asked that too but in my quick check boat was slightly more expensive albeit with more storage space.