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Posted by meetpateltech 10 hours ago

Muse Wonder(research.meta.ai)
533 points | 300 commentspage 8
crimsoneer 7 hours ago|
But when is another open weights release coming out...
rw2 9 hours ago||
Claude is waiting for this to drop fable 5.5 lol.
CurbStomper4 4 hours ago||
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artursapek 7 hours ago||
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chenster 9 hours ago||
Just dont' use the word Super Intelligence
stratos123 9 hours ago||
To be clear, Meta here is not using "Super Intelligence" the bullshit term Trump wants companies to adopt as a show of submission. They use "superintelligence" the bullshit term that Facebook made up for marketing reasons a few years ago. Both of these are of course entirely unrelated to the long-established meaning of the word (e.g. how Bostrom defines it).
laidoffamazon 9 hours ago|||
Zuck has been using the term for a while in the context of Muse, if anything Trump took it from him
ipsum2 8 hours ago||
I don't know why you were downvoted, MSL stands for Meta Superintelligence Lab, and it named that before Trump.
alex1138 9 hours ago|||
I know, it's... well, it's irritating to see Trump use it. But I could be wrong, I don't know the angle he's going for

I understand the general thing of it. SI might mean every person gets their personalized agent but you could already do this, but maybe the Chinese model works here, where they push the costs down

It's still stupid to start calling it all SI

bmau5 9 hours ago||
Probably this angle: https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/trump-super-int...
ipsum2 9 hours ago||
The ML community has been using the phrase "Super Intelligence" long before Trump took office. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superintelligence:_Paths,_Dang... was published in 2014.
overfeed 8 hours ago|||
Super Intelligence refers to intelligence beyond what humans are capable of, which some believers profess is the next step after (and in contrast to) human-level AGI (Artificial General Intelligence). Calling pre-AGI AI "super intelligence" is pure vice-signalling and publicly kissing the ring.
throw310822 8 hours ago||
Apparently Meta used the term before.

Also, as much as I despise Trump, you know what? Given the jagged shape of LLM capabilities and what they do achieve in some areas and their superhuman speed, compared with the abilities of most of their users, the term superintelligence is not that far off- maybe just a few months ahead of time. E.g., from my perspective, the current mathematical abilities of LLMs are "super"- I'd hardly ever come in touch with an equivalently capable human, not to mention having one completely available 24/7. Same for general knowledge and several other domains.

jeffhwang 9 hours ago||||
I noticed "Superintelligence" as a re-brand of AI and constantly shifting definitions of AGI around 2025. When a bunch of startups started slinging around SI as a marketing term and of course when Meta launched MSI in summer of 2025.

that was all before Trump's "edict"

ipsum2 5 hours ago||||
Why people downvote objective, non-controversial comments, is beyond me.
rolosa 7 hours ago|||
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clueless 9 hours ago|
how much benchmark-maxxing has been done here? taking bets on poly and kalshi...
xynelius 9 hours ago||
I think it's safe to assume every single model is benchmaxxed. I mean why wouldn't you include training data from common benchmarks? Not only is a higher score good marketing, but these benchmarks are supposed to represent common tasks so training for those should in principle improve performance across a wider range of tasks.
samseaborn 9 hours ago|||
There's an entire section in the linked post about measuring benchmaxxing, so I guess that probably says something.
phoghed 9 hours ago||
Out of all the tech CEOs out there, Zuck would never lie to me or manipulate me. I know this in my heart.
fancyfredbot 6 hours ago||
The thing about Zuckerberg is that although he's deeply odd he has no ability to conceal this.

Sam Altman is much more dangerous because he is occasionally able to come across as human.

phoghed 9 hours ago|||
All of them are doing all the benchmaxing they can most likely. Dumb not to when so many people care about those numbers and don’t have the opportunity to try every model out personally.
bigyabai 9 hours ago||
Muse Spark was generally good. I'd be surprised if this model felt benchmaxxed.