In other news, research institute such as S&P, McKinsey and MIT that try to estimate when level 5 autonomous vehicles will be achieved, all agree it won't happen before 2040.

I'm skeptical, because any scenario even close to this means if we are still around, we not only won't be thinking, we won't be capable of thinking. Use it, or lose it. Which is no life at all.

When thinking becomes a hobby/unimportant, all rules of society will be way different than what we have right now which is mainly making money to survive/get more luxury.

I think that people who believe that AI will diminish human thinking might be more likely to have their thinking diminished. I don't discount that the effect discussed is possible, and probably likely for many; however, I strongly believe it is ultimately a choice. For me AI shifts what I give attention to, and increasingly I am thinking at higher levels of abstraction.

Hasn't it been for quite some time?

Simple example, close to home: the preponderance of proprietary products rather than freer ones, with people then mass complaining when they end up bitten by the downsides. But adopting the freer solutions requires taking it on as a hobby - it's not just a simple choice between A or B, but rather requires self-actualization to implement the freer solution as it pertains to your own life.

So we're really talking about the next step whereby it becomes even easier to just go with the flow of default options. Of course, "the flow" might not be ending up in such a successful place any more (ie no more copious white collar make work jobs in the healthcare denial industry, etc), and that's the real problem.

I have never heard of anything more deluded. I question how somebody can sink to such levels of infernal delusion?

Thinking is not words and has never been words. Maybe a single percent of our high level thinking and reasoning is words, or can be expressed as words.

Somebody who thinks only in words like an AI should only deserve pity for being extremely underdeveloped, if such a person could survive into adulthood at all.

Words are unfortunately what we are limited to when it comes to communicating our thinking through electronic means. That doesn't mean that such limits apply to actual thinking.

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Spinellis also engages in doomerist reinforcement learning for humans now? This is exactly up Amodei's alley!

Thank, you, Diomidis! I'll remember your IOCCC contributions and shall join the AI-Jugend and report to my Untergruppenführer.

(Incidentally, the IOCCC is also suffering from AI psychosis now.)

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