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Posted by gumby 7 hours ago

AI coding agents generate more code, but not more software(arstechnica.com)
299 points | 257 commentspage 5
RomanPushkin 6 hours ago|
How come? For example, "Brandon Thomas released Artcraft, a free, open-source suite of apps ... alternatives to the entire Adobe Creative Suite".

I checked and it looks and works great!

dingaling911 6 hours ago|
That's pretty sick.
jimrandomh 6 hours ago||
This headline being in the present tense, while reporting on a data from 2025, makes it basically dishonest. 2026 AI coding agents bear little resemblance to 2025 AI coding agents, and early-2026 coding agents are not like like-2026 coding agents.
yipinwong 6 hours ago||
I take both approaches. just /yolo or /goal or measure twice and cut once.

yolo works when I need to focus on higher priority, and make sure things just work (though not "great").

For the latter, I use it for more like spec-driven fashion with HITL. Basically everytime it ffinishes a task, I review and then move on.

Both appraoches work. just make sure your yolo slop isn't bad and passes stuff.

LoC don't mean jack shit.

holoduke 3 hours ago||
Creating code is free now. Maintaining it is not. At least not at this point. The amount of slop we need to maintain is becoming very big. There is no other way than to use ai to deal with this. But that creates even more slop. Hopefully slop will be dealt with at some point.
IshKebab 2 hours ago||
Yeah this is nonsense. Maybe true a few months ago but it's going to look hilariously short sighted in 6 months.
alexnewman 7 hours ago||
Maybe but I’d argue the frontier corps will self destruct via green annd product management enough to make this impractical. So far here’s how I see that going 1) can’t easily autopilot due to security. Ganna keep on prompting you into running weird shell commands 2) it’ll launch your code on weird Anthropic or ChatGPT sites behind a paywall 3) between the two of them it’ll Misalign the solution so it’s unusable
popkoren 5 hours ago||
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bionhoward 6 hours ago||
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bensyverson 5 hours ago||
Counterpoint: https://getartcraft.com

I'd say that's "more software."

The paradigm shift is trusting the agents' code, and not reviewing it, the same way that an engineering manager does not read every line of every PR.

orphea 5 hours ago|
The link is a piece of crap wrapped in candy packaging, able to fool anyone who couldn't be bothered to unwrap the candy. DOA slop. It has nothing to do with either art or craft. This is actually a perfect example why agents' code cannot be trusted.
bensyverson 4 hours ago||
Have you downloaded and used any of the apps?

If you reject any software that used AI in its development as slop, I have bad news about the rest of your life.

jedberg 6 hours ago|
Way back in the day, everyone wrote assembly. Then things like C came around, which had to be compiled to assembly, and most people objected: "I don't want to be that far from what the CPU is doing!".

Each time we move up an abstraction layer, people object, saying that nothing will work right if we move up that high in the stack. Give it time. I'll bet in 5-10 years, almost no one will look at code anymore, except in special cases.

We still have people who write in assembly, we still have people who write in C, mostly for performance reasons. Because you still need to be close to the CPU to get that last bit of performance. But in most cases, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if the LLM makes bad code if it works and passes all the tests.

Granted, this is the first time we're going from deterministic to non-deterministic, but is it really? Large scale distributed systems are already non-deterministic. They create inputs and situations that programs aren't designed to handle all the time. What's a little more chaos? :)