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Posted by corvad 9 hours ago

New Apple TV 4K(www.apple.com)
249 points | 483 commentspage 2
vander_elst 7 hours ago|
300 bucks seems a lot.

Nowadays with ~100 bucks you can an amd64 box and a CEC adapter, which allows to use the default remote of your tv. Then you can install on it whatever you want, customize it however you prefer and have all the privacy you decide. No lock-in. As much AI as you like, zero is a valid option.

ragazzina 1 hour ago||
How will you play HDR media then?
ahyattdev 6 hours ago|||
Do you know of a CEC adapter which can do HDMI2.1 4K120Hz? What has held me back from this setup is only being able to find 4K60Hz CEC adapters.
toast0 5 hours ago||
The CEC adapter shouldn't care? CEC is its own pin, everything else just goes straight through. (or maybe through twists).

You can also probably maybe do terrible things like CEC on one port and signal on another, it's mostly a bus.

mastax 7 hours ago||
A lot of hardware and not much to do with it.

A different company could turn this hardware into a pretty serious gaming machine or a zero config NAS or something but Apple is not that company.

They couldn't think of any compelling Siri AI use cases to put in the advertising and neither can I.

testfrequency 7 hours ago|
Current rumor is Apple (Beats) may be releasing a controller soon, and with that I’d assume that + price they are testing the waters with bringing AAA to the Apple TV.
mastax 6 hours ago||
If they put Steam on it with your whole existing library we'd be talking.

"We have tomb raider and death stranding 2 for $69.99" is not an interesting proposition except for Apple fanboy dads who hope that will placate their gamer child (it won't).

testfrequency 6 hours ago||
I don’t disagree, the pricing for their titles is painful - especially compared to Steam discounts.

That said, Apple has been attempting for years to make Apple Arcade a hit.

nickpeterson 4 hours ago||
The bizarre thing to me is that it doesn't really feel like they need to do much other than cut deals with developers. This latest atv can't be much slower than a switch 2 (I wouldn't be shocked if it's faster) and could certainly run a giant back catalog of games if publishers were willing to launch them on it. It seems like such an obvious thing that I must be missing something crucial about it.

It would really help me stomach a $300 dedicated box for my TV if it could do more than look at pictures and stream netflix. Games are the absolute obvious thing to do, especially since Microsoft and Sony are seemingly struggling.

Just ship a controller and cut some deals apple, it isn't that hard...

binlog 2 hours ago||
Raising the price of your product from $130 to $300 in a span of 3 months while not adding any new useful features is crazy even for Apple.
oldsklgdfth 3 hours ago||
Anecdotally, the AppleTV app on smartTVs won't remember what I was watching. Not the show, the episode or the timestamp into the episode.

This has led me to passionately start my own media server again.

Anywhere between $100-$200 will get you a mini PC that you can use to host movies, series, music, audiobooks and ebooks. If you don't transcode the content then there's no need to worry about a GPU. Set it up headless in a closet.

From there you can use a mobile app to connect your phone/tv/any device to it and enjoy an ad free experience without streaming data over the internet.

My TV is a 15in CRT that I connect with a laptop. My phone is a 1st gen iphone se, with apps to stream.

I've found this setup less frustrating (and wildly cheaper) than spotify, appleTV/netflix/hulu, kindle and etc.

The current state of computing is such that I can't justify buying hardware that requires an app to use. If I want cameras, I buy the camera and connect then to my backend. If I want a thermostat, I do the same.

hack1312 3 hours ago|
Works fine for me on an Nvidia Shield TV
EvilTrout 3 hours ago|||
I've been running the Apple TV app on a Shield and it's got a lot of other bugs. Lately it's been showing shows in the totally wrong aspect ratio unless I restart the app. I do think they consider it a second class citizen.
oldsklgdfth 3 hours ago|||
makes sense. my suspicious is the version for smartTVs is optimized for the hardware and has some bugs in it.
siliconc0w 7 hours ago||
Every other vendor has injected so many obtrusive ads and spyware Apple has won this product area by default.
boelboel 7 hours ago||
It's genuinely one of the few apple products I've had interest in but it seems like I'm in a minority. Maybe people just haven't bought a new TV recently.
oofbey 7 hours ago||
TVs are getting worse not better. Except for the display. Which should be the only real concern. But the built in software is just going down hill universally.
foobarian 6 hours ago|||
I would love to have something that can have a snappy UI. I don't even care about resolution, I'd happily keep everything at 720p as long as the UI didn't take seconds to react.
vachina 6 hours ago||
Any vanilla android TV box with an Amlogic chip will not have ads, and will run circles around this overpriced headless iPhone.
djhworld 1 hour ago||
I really like my 2022 Apple TV, I just use it for Plex and YouTube and it works great. People complain about the remote but I don't mind it, works fine. I bought it to replace having to use the slow and clunky Plex/Youtube apps on my LG TV and it's more than fulfilled that purpose.

Great little device, I think I paid £130 for it a few years ago.

There is no reason for me to upgrade to this device, but that £299 price tag really stinks, there is no way I'd buy it at that price if I didn't have the older model already.

a1o 1 hour ago||
Any note on specs? Do we still have ethernet? Which ethernet we get (is it 2.5GBps?)? How much storage? And what about RAM? I couldn’t easily grasp this information after skimming the text.

Also, any change to the output ports, or are we still restricted to one hdmi as the single output?

unsupp0rted 6 hours ago||
Steve Jobs would have ripped the face off whoever approved that top banner photo:

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/images/2026/10/apple-unveils-...

It's so un-Apple to be stretched and in weird perspective that way

steve_adams_86 3 hours ago||
I understood what it was after a moment of looking at it, but had to sit and wonder why they thought it was a good idea. What am I missing here? This looks weird.
fckgw 6 hours ago||
It's a top down view of the TV
GavinMcG 5 hours ago|||
Exactly: a weird perspective.
unsupp0rted 4 hours ago|||
Have you ever looked at your TV screen from the top down?
qblv 5 hours ago||
$300 is absurd. I’ve been waiting for this for a while, but it looks like I’ll have to settle for the older model at a lower price. I wonder if the high price is due to storage costs.
piskov 1 hour ago|
Supporting 4 HomePods surround only in the new model is a classic dick move by Apple.

Also not supporting the original, completely fine and working HomePod for this is another.

Though first place here is dropping raw photo support for the $2k iPhone duo.

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(All these are software features which hardware supports.)

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