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Posted by corvad 13 hours ago

New Apple TV 4K(www.apple.com)
300 points | 558 commentspage 9
jm4 11 hours ago|
I love my Apple TV, but this is nothing but a price hike. The older model already does 4k. What's the added benefit here? Siri? Give me a break. Apple Intelligence is the least capable AI of any of the big tech companies. The fact that they don't mine data like the others is a moot point when Siri isn't even good enough to answer basic queries in the first place. There's no data to mine when you end up not using it for anything.
blitzar 12 hours ago||
I really hope this time its different and siri doesn't suck ... but then at the end of the day when i am watching tv I don't really need a llm to assist me.

As far as I can tell its a hardware bump and some supercharging price bump.

Brendinooo 12 hours ago|
"Turn on/off subtitles" is the primary use case for me. "Rewind a minute" is a good one as well. If it got more seamless at something like "watch Community on Peacock" that'd be on the list as well.
lostlogin 9 hours ago||
That’s the most compelling argument for it I’ve ever seen.

I’d like Plex to integrate this.

b8 9 hours ago||
For the price, I still will go with an Nvidia Shield.
Scubabear68 12 hours ago||
$299, ouch. And a heavy emphasis on voice capabilities, which my kids love but I generally hate. I don't want to have a conversation with my media.

I have had many Apple TV generations and want to love it, but I really don't get where Apple is trying to go with it. The whole "Apple TV" app really confused the hell out of me, and I wonder if this is continuing that trend. Or maybe it won't matter because this is just ridiculously expensive.

shermantanktop 12 hours ago|
Is there a better experience out there? There are lots of cheaper sticks, but even high end TVs have crappy app launchers, the apps are usually janky, and the vendors are spying on your usage.

It’s expensive, but is there a better option?

vachina 11 hours ago|||
Yes, a vanilla Android TV with a semi powerful SoC.

I have the 4K and MiBox next to each other, the Apple TV is cool for a UI showcase, but beyond the oohs and aahs the MiBox is a more useful entertainment device.

petesergeant 11 hours ago|||
> It’s expensive, but is there a better option?

Honestly? A 2nd-hand Apple TV. That’s the competitor for this. I’ve had mine for what feels like it must be >5 years, they survived two years in a suitcase as a digital nomad, as far as I can tell they’re indestructible. My local 2nd hand site is full of them, too.

shermantanktop 9 hours ago||
Yes, this is what happens with market leaders - their biggest competitor is the previous version of their own product. Hence silly vanity features to drive the upgrade treadmill.
lilchungus 9 hours ago||
Since everyone is saying this isn't worth upgrading, I feel better about my purchase of a used Apple TV 4K 3rd Gen on eBay.
eknkc 12 hours ago||
Has anyone used Siri AI? I upgraded to iOS 27, which is fine I guess. Tried a couple siri prompts and decided it is horseshit as it always has been. Never touched it again.

Guys maybe just let others register themselves as system agents since you are obviously not capable of creating anything related to AI. Provide the absolutely minimum effort Siri as default and be done with it.

mastax 12 hours ago||
It's comparable to the free-tier AIs from the other providers but with a decent index of your personal data in a relatively secure and private fashion. It's not completely useless is the nicest thing I can say at this time. I hope it will become good.
xattt 8 hours ago||
I’ve got various ID cards that were messaged to me or I took a picture of that I was able to find with simple prompt.

I don’t think it would have been easily done on non-AI spotlight.

macintux 12 hours ago|||
I want to downgrade to old-Siri. At least it was predictable and relatively quick to respond.
macintux 7 hours ago||
Turns out there is a way to revert Siri. Turn it off and back on again.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50077296

sdcfgy 12 hours ago|||
It's dire. Also ate a chunk of my storage on iOS.

I am so done.

jonhohle 12 hours ago|||
I was in the car the other day and asked about details of a meeting I was driving to. It wasn’t a meeting in my calendar, just some emails that mentioned it. The response was genuinely good.

Then I asked it about the status of some packages that were already being tracked in wallet and it was a dumpster fire.

embedding-shape 12 hours ago||
> Guys maybe just let others

You're asking the company which is famously working their hardest to lock in their users completely to their services and platforms, to "just let others"? Maybe understand what ecosystem you buy into, and agree with their approach they've had for decades now, or let the ones who like that stuff continue to enjoy it. Seems kind of self-defeatists to ask them to change ways now...

eknkc 12 hours ago||
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mtzaldo 6 hours ago||
could we have asahi linux on the apple tv?
Agingcoder 9 hours ago||
I want GeForce now on this
KerrAvon 6 hours ago||
Y'all can thank Sam Altman personally for the price increase.
Finnucane 12 hours ago|
Our old one still works fine. Nine years.
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