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Posted by mjorgers 7 hours ago

Thunderbird for iOS(blog.thunderbird.net)
269 points | 107 commentspage 2
linuxkernal 1 hour ago|
Now does it come with that oh so annoying "Sent from my iPhone?"
atrokhymchuk 6 hours ago||
apparently that is a native iOS application, I wonder whether they tried to use KMP to use same codebase with the android app
crossroadsguy 6 hours ago||
I have seen this. Some devs actually write a pure swift ui app and still manage to make that look like anything but a pure switt ui app. Since the mothership is Mozilla I won't put is past them.
cosmic_cheese 5 hours ago||
Much more than UIKit, SwiftUI enables the web front-end mentality that mandates no stone be left without a custom style. It's one reason that I'm not particularly fond of it.
markstos 4 hours ago||
Thunderbird for Android is based on the 15+ year old K-9 Mail app while Thunderbird for iOS is a greenfield project.
mmmnnn 4 hours ago||
i feel i could die waiting for this. i am 54.
basilikum 4 hours ago||
But can it do IRC?
CJefferson 6 hours ago||
It's been 14 years since I reported you can't search for "wedding" in Bugzilla, have they ever fixed it, they hadn't last time I checked:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=752844

(The bug is they do 'clever matching', so wedding matches weds, and too many emails you weds for wednesday, you can't say 'just show the word I ask you for')

janci 5 hours ago||
Yeah, the search in Thunderbird never worked for me, so I use the quick filter. Apparently it does not use the index (and is slower), but it works.
michelb 5 hours ago|||
That thread is both hilarious and sad. Incredible that nobody has forked the project simply to implement a working search.
cromka 5 hours ago|||
Betterbird exists actually and they fix bugs like that, which Mozilla just refuses to address for whatever reason
copperx 5 hours ago|||
https://www.betterbird.eu/
NoboruWataya 5 hours ago|||
If you sort by relevance it seems to prioritise the word you asked for? I searched "wedding" and the first few hundred results were all emails about actual weddings. It was only when I sorted by date I saw the "Wed" results.
dpkirchner 4 hours ago|||
Well, they are funded by Google after all -- infamous for replacing or ignoring search terms entirely.
encom 2 hours ago||
Many such cases. Duckduckgo is practically unusable because it just decides for itself which of my search terms it actually searches for. I have to explicitly quote every word to get it to function like a search engine.

Meanwhile, Netflix search (on Apple TV at least), is not only practically unusable, but literally so. Doesn't matter what you input, it just returns a random selection of films. I saw Kill Bill the other day, and wondered if there were any other Tarantino films on there. "Tarantino" returned things like Indiana Jones and other completely nonsensical results.

Am I the only one around here who knows SQL?

godelski 3 hours ago||
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ls-a 5 hours ago||
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leobg 2 hours ago||
Should be: 2006.

(Not the headline. The announcement. Haha)

sneilan1 1 hour ago|
What exactly is the Thunderbird team doing that I can't vibe-code with my special friend Claude? Why does this software justify a blog post about a "first look". What am I missing that is so exciting? I don't understand what is going on here that is so neat. There's nothing here I can't pump out in a week or two at worst.

I'm confused at everyone's excitement because it's become a lot cheaper to write software like this. Maybe for all the folks world-wide that aren't up to speed with modern practices, it's helpful to have an iOS app.

Am I talking like the guy that dissed Drew Houston, saying oh I can put together sshfs and a couple other things and build out Dropbox. Drew rightly corrected the engineer on ycombinator many years ago to say that end users want a finished product not a bunch of tools.

But this is a new era where you can vibe-code this very quickly for iOS.

comboy 1 hour ago||
Have you vibe coded any apps that you use daily?

In my experience I spent a lot of time on design nowadays. It turns out I did that in the past too I just had quite a lot of time to think that through slowly while hands were doing vim stuff. And good design is hard. And somewhat subjective. But mostly just hard, pretty sure in some time agents will get better at it, but for now it's still something they can't do well at all.

And by design I mean all of it: UX, look and architecture.

rm445 1 hour ago|||
An e-mail client is the archetypal demo-in-a-weekend, ten-million-lines-in-production program. Not to deny the power of coding agents, and maybe you can vibecode something that's just right for reading your e-mail, but does it support my nested MIME folders and the obscure encryption used by my mail host?
spreiti 1 hour ago|||
I am confused by your comment. Is it modern practice to vibe code everything these days instead of installing an app developed and maintained by a team? Do you expect everybody to be vibe coding their own software now?
yreg 1 hour ago||
There's much more to a good app than the code.