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Posted by sammy0910 8 hours ago

I posted to HN, and then my website was flooded with AI bot traffic(www.sammystraus.com)
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sebastianconcpt 4 hours ago|
Wait until you answer in "Ask HN: Who wants to be hired?" and start receiving hiring phishing emails.
ChrisMarshallNY 7 hours ago||
Heh. I posted a GitHub project Show HN, a couple of days ago, and it never even made it out of new, but it got me some bots.

That's a big reason that I never post any of my apps here.

Welcome to hell, kid...

spiderfarmer 7 hours ago||
Try posting something viral on Mastodon. The logs clearly show that it isn't the most efficient social network.
dyingkneepad 6 hours ago|
Can you elaborate more, please? I'm curious.
phyzome 2 hours ago|||
I recently posted a link that got 2 boosts and 6 faves, but it was requested by about 300 fedi servers so they could generate a preview.

Which is fine! Because even though my photo gallery runs on a 15 year old laptop in the basement, I wrote the gallery software in a fast language (Rust) and so a trickle of requests maxing at 4 per second is not actually a problem.

People complaining about fedi hammering their servers are probably using PHP or Python.

advisedwang 6 hours ago|||
not the parent commentor, but I've previously heard complaints about how each server separately does a fetch of images and html for previews.
danieltk76 4 hours ago||
happened to me too!
janalsncm 7 hours ago||
Ok, on the one hand to have one bot hitting your website to populate some kind of slop newsletter is pretty annoying.

On the other hand, “multiple times per minute” doesn’t seem that high? Even if it was 60x per min that’s fully within the limits of what a 2015 laptop in the closet can handle.

sammy0910 7 hours ago||
yeah, it was a wake-up call that I needed to make certain parts of my application faster, and I've been working on it for the past few weeks
Exoristos 6 hours ago||
Once every 24 hours seems sufficient for the stated purpose.
lloydatkinson 4 hours ago||
I’ve been enjoying https://www.unslop.news/ after it was shared here.

HN has become unbearably AI slop oriented over the last couple of years. It’s nice to see something else.

otherayden 1 hour ago|
Glad you're liking unslop.news :) If you ever find any bugs or want anything added, it's open source so feel free to open a ticket https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai
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rahibali 7 hours ago||
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aaron695 1 hour ago||
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retsibsi 7 hours ago||
I don't know HN's rationale, but: if you try to ban self-promotion, then in practice you're only banning honest self-promotion. And if you allow it, but try to ban accounts that only exist for that purpose, then in practice you're encouraging them to spam mediocre comments in other threads to dilute the signal. [edit: I see that the guidelines do say not to use HN primarily for promotion. I'm willing to bet this significantly increases the amount of insincere engagement, but obviously the admins/moderators here are more aware of the tradeoffs than I am, and they have decided they are worth accepting.]

IMO the important thing to try to crack down on is vote manipulation; if you have that under control, then you can probably happily allow self-promotion and trust that only the interesting stuff will rise to the top.

unshavedyak 7 hours ago|||
Any thoughts on what the alternative would be?

Perhaps a contribution requirement per post? Though this proposal just invites bots to actually post comments because that becomes a requirement for posting links.

jaggederest 7 hours ago|||
The guidelines already cover this:

> Please don't use HN primarily for promotion. It's ok to post your own stuff part of the time, but the primary use of the site should be for curiosity.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I assume that users who primarily/only post their own stuff and get flagged a lot reap the consequences, there's plenty of spam filtering on here thank goodness.

ThrowawayR2 6 hours ago||
Those who slip promo of their own sites among a stream of other legitimate submissions or just space it out enough across multiple accounts can fly under the radar for years. People know how to game HN and already are, e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49517728
jacquesm 6 hours ago||
That one didn't work though:

https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=FannyJoeStyles

ThrowawayR2 5 hours ago||
That's just one account that unmasked itself and was noticed. Doubtlessly that didn't stop them from moving on to the next one.
jacquesm 4 hours ago||
Oh, absolutely. But there are accounts that are active here for months or years, that one at least got killed while still green.
Akronymus 7 hours ago|||
make interactions with others' posts/post others' stuff a soft req for posting your own stuff? So not following it could be deemed actionable by the hn mod team?

Edit: nvm thats already in the guidelines

latexr 7 hours ago||
Ostensibly, they aren’t. From the Guidelines (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html):

> Please don't use HN primarily for promotion. It's ok to post your own stuff part of the time, but the primary use of the site should be for curiosity.