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Posted by Brajeshwar 22 hours ago

Google is silently linking your phone number across all signed-in accounts(www.androidauthority.com)
486 points | 138 commentspage 4
shevy-java 19 hours ago|
Daily Evil by Google.

Anyone still having doubts about this company? To be fair: the US corporations all do that. I remember how Facebook linked off-connection data together. They are all operating in the same manner here, sustaining US spy interests.

dn3500 18 hours ago|
I felt a bit betrayed when I discovered that Facebook has a list of the people I have communicated with on Whatsapp, and was sharing this list with their advertisers. Not just the phone numbers, but the Facebook accounts. My Whatsapp is not associated with Facebook in any way except that they have the same phone number, and I do not have Facebook on my phone.
nullc 20 hours ago||
fuck. keeping your phone number off accounts is an important security step as many attacks require that you have a phone number connected.

If it's ever been on there you cant trust that some long forgotten recovery pathway can't be convinced to use it to authenticate access to your account.

Terr_ 17 hours ago|
Bonus-rage if the exploitable "recovery" path relies on "Security Questions" you cannot change which are not-really-very-secret and which overlap with the same questions recorded (and leaked) by other companies.
nullc 12 hours ago||
At least those you can turn into covert password fields because they cannot verify them.

Phone numbers they 'verify' so you cant just put in a uniformly random 10 digit number and authenticate later through knowledge of it.

ButlerianJihad 11 hours ago||
> At least those you can turn into covert password fields because they cannot verify them.

Don't do this.

I tried to do this and it turned into a very bad time with their CSRs.

The "security questions" are designed to be answered verbally. They are also designed to be "something you know" that is unlikely to be forgotten, misplaced, or change. Rather than randomized passwords, they're supposed to be something intrinsic to your life that you always remember, especially in a crisis time, and when your scribbled-down credential list is missing.

Based on imitation of a very paranoid security wonk acquaintance, I once set all these security answers to long strings of hexadecimal digits, auto-randomized by KeePass. Big mistake.

They worked for as long as I was setting them, but eventually a CSR, verbally on the phone, began to ask me what they were. The hex strings were nearly impossible to dictate over the voice connection. Also the CSR was kind of pissed about this misuse.

Security questions/answers aren't passwords. Don't subvert them into this use. Your service provider knows what they're doing. Doing this "clever" shit will only hurt yourself, and you're shooting future-you in the foot.

Terr_ 6 hours ago|||
Putting aside whether it's best to use them as the company intended, random pronounceable word sequences should be strictly-better than hex/ASCII ones. (Presuming the company isn't limiting "answers" to unreasonably short character lengths.)

Another risk is that someone will call up and say "it's just a bunch of random stuff" and the customer service rep will go: "Okay, that's right, moving on..."

nullc 10 hours ago|||
They don't know what they are doing if they have those questions. I've found mine in multiple data breaches. If they were real they'd broadly grant access to every account.

Or maybe to be more accurate: they do know what they're doing, recovery is a cost center so they're minimizing it. But outside of special cases with special statutory affordance (like credit card fraud) the loss is on you* if you get robbed via their weak security. So companies are intentionally minimizing their costs because you're the one that takes the cost when their security is poor.

I have encounter the pronounceable issue-- though reading 32 hex characters over the phone really wasn't *that* bad. So now-- and for the last 15 years-- I make them pronounceable passwords.

> especially in a crisis time

I've tried to organize my life so that I never need 'crisis' access to some stupid online account. I recommend it!

ButlerianJihad 7 hours ago||
In a crisis, you wouldn’t need to access your banks, or your patient portal, or refill prescriptions at your pharmacy, or pay your rent, or shop for groceries?

Or just, simply… sign in to your personal Apple/Microsoft/Google account at all?

Weird, dude.

jeffbee 20 hours ago||
"Silently" has been redefined to mean "we know this because of the emails it sends".
GrumpyGoblin 20 hours ago||
No shit
realitylabs 16 hours ago||
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AnubisProductio 12 hours ago||
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5324_1 20 hours ago||
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wetpaws 20 hours ago||
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rdevilla 20 hours ago||
What a fucking horrible company.
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