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Posted by bigwheels 4 hours ago

Muse Spark Open(research.meta.ai)
https://dev.meta.ai/resources/blog/build-with-muse-spark-ope...

https://huggingface.co/meta-models/Muse-Spark-Open-816B-A42B

https://9to5mac.com/2026/10/15/meta-launches-new-muse-spark-...

488 points | 284 commentspage 2
octomind 2 hours ago|
Finally democratizing AI access to, checks notes, people with no less than two Apple M5 Ultra Studios on their desktop.
TomGarden 1 hour ago|
I partly agree with the sentiment, but this is also the first time I've seen an actual lab announce they optimized for consumer hardware (very expensive, but still consumer).

It's kind of absurd that no non-quantized MOE model exists that's sweet spotted for 128GB Macs, for example. I hope more open labs follow this lead but also offer lower tier models, perhaps specialized on certain types of tasks

jjcm 3 hours ago||
Image->html test for muse spark open.

Original designs: https://diffui.ai/app/canvas/5093e689-1e74-4f26-b632-2a4500f...

Muse Spark Open: https://html.non.io/lcars-muse-spark/

Opus 5.5 (sota): https://html.non.io/lcars-opus-5.5/

Overall it actually does pretty solid. It doesn't completely follow the design, but it gets the vibe. It's one of the best open models I've seen for conversion, which is impressive.

jjcm 3 hours ago||
And disclaimer since this comes up with these - objective with this test is to be a good image->html test, not a good web design. Also it's meant to use 3js to render the planets, which if you don't have GPU acceleration enabled for your browser will lower the FPS significantly.
SahAssar 1 hour ago||
Besides including the sota could you include a link to the best previous open-weights (and if possible fully open-source) model?
itissid 3 hours ago||
I think a lot of people in this thread are openly dismissive: "oh its just open claw, anyone can and many have build that".

I think what they are missing is the fact that there are not that many teams in the world that can deploy muse like product to A/B test a lot of hypothesis at the scale meta can at scale. I mean even if you could get to scale with DC you need a reason for people to use your product.

My mom and dad and their family have never heard of Claude and don't use chat gpt except once in a while as a search engine. But meta will figure out a way to insert this into modals and feeds to make people stumble and stick on it.

I am no meta fan, but I think people underestimate how fast product uptake there is for non Dev harness.

msabalau 1 hour ago||
It's not just openclaw, there's OpenAI's Dots and Gemini Spark.

Facebook doesn't have an real advantage to drive adoption other the being free. Which is not a moat because Google, certainly, and OpenAI, very probably, would offer this for free, in the event this capability turns out to be important to consumers.

Gmail, which half of the people in the US use their daily e-mail is certainly strong thing to build an agent on top of.

Just because meta can shove stuff in the faces of people doesn't mean they can succeed at any random thing. Most Facebook users distrust it, and dislike Zuck personally (at least that's what his lawyer said in court) and that's a rather large barrier to succeeding with agents, where trust is foundational.

But my assumption about the speed of product uptake may be skewed by not-valuing Meta's "consumer task running" pitch. But if people actually want this, for some reason, competitors at scale seem very likely to appear instantly.

This really seems more about meta AI team needs more users of their AI to do a good job building AI, and doing this for free is niche where they can get a few more users, rather than this being genius gambit.

redanddead 3 hours ago||
Hmm.. i don't know.

Coding is the main application for AI in 2026, unless I'm wrong

itissid 2 hours ago|||
Coding was not the main application before ~Dec 2023, the same way the light bulb was not the main use of electricity for a long time. Meta for better or for worst is good at discovering new use-cases for their products(however bad they are for society is a different debate) and pivot if they are not - remember the Portal device( https://www.meta.com/portal/ ) ? Good hardware, decent usecase, killed within a ~year of its release.
slopnt 3 hours ago|||
yes, but that does not prevent other applications from existing or being successful this year
TomGarden 2 hours ago||
The exciting thing about this is in them optimizing for inference on Macs. This, and optimization for other consumer hardware, is where local AI needs to go
kristianp 1 hour ago|
Given the size of Macs (2 or 4 of them) required to run it, they're just paying lip service to that option. Other models, e.g. deepseek flash, are much more practical size. Even that takes a 96 or 128GB ram Mac.
itsmeduncan 4 hours ago||
This is great progress for "open-weight" models. Quotes due to the restrictions, but still progress none-the-less. Looking forward to seeing any quants that all mere mortals to run this at home without early access Apple hardware.
modeless 3 hours ago||
In terms of performance it seems like this has somewhat worse benchmarks than Muse Spark 1.3, closer to 1.2 but not the same. Of course significantly worse than Muse Wonder Full.
brisket_bronson 2 hours ago||
> We believe the future is for everyone

Okay...

> run on your desktop using two Apple M5 Ultra Mac Studios with the latest MLX framework

Who is this "everyone"?

hypfer 2 hours ago||
It would be nice if the other players in the market would do the same and release yesteryears models as something to run at home.

Especially for all the people that got emotionally attached to specific checkpoints and their.. uh.. "character".

montroser 4 hours ago||
Well, this is much better than nothing -- we should be grateful that whatever the market conditions and corporate incentives, a major lab is releasing a capable open-weight model. But still very far behind DeepSeek and GLM. Even on consumer hardware, Qwen 3.8 27B is going to compare favorably to this.
ShinyLeftPad 4 hours ago|
It's not open, like the Llama. There is a licensing agreement by which they allow you to use it for free on conditions.
brudgers 2 hours ago|
Is it easy to use Muse to remove all the kinds of crap I don’t want in my Facebook feed?

Asking for a friend.

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