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Posted by smilelamp 3 hours ago

Why are we even doing all this?(terrytao.wordpress.com)
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asanineassasin 2 hours ago|
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HedonicEscal8r 1 hour ago||
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arjie 2 hours ago||
Unlikable text. Just a rant with the usual “corporations” socialism-slop. Terry Tao’s blog rapidly diminishing in quality. I didn’t think that the way machines would approach top mathematics is to transform top mathematicians into boring Redditors who eagerly retweet other annoying Redditors.
_doctor_love 2 hours ago||
Dear friends: you may not like to hear this but the profit motive is what ruins everything.

I have a degree in Economics. I have read Adam Smith (and not just the Wealth of Nations, by the way!). I spent years on this stuff. I understand markets and for some things they are indeed the best solution. No argument there.

It is a FACT that some things in life should not be done for profit.

juvvel 2 hours ago||
If we as humanity cannot protect fields like art, science, even healthcare and housing, from the ever-growing pressure to make a profit off of them, then we are truly doomed. AI is not the sole cause, it just expedites the process of destroying everything that is not maximally cost-effective.
augment_me 2 hours ago||
What is the incentive to protect these fields?

Will protection of these fields help the average person or country to survive and accumulate resources?

krona 2 hours ago|||
Narrator: But this was a fiction. In reality, evidence of any profits being made was extremely hard to come by.
amelius 2 hours ago|||
> I spent years on this stuff.

All I needed was entering a game of Monopoly after a few rounds had already been played.

SoftTalker 2 hours ago|||
Some things cannot be done for profit, but need to be done. These are things that we consider moral or human rights, such as feeding the hungry, caring for the sick, or sheltering the homeless. This is the realm of charity, and it was once a serious obligation for the elite as well as a central focus of religion.

But for everything else, the profit motive is unsurpassed at allocating scarce resources to their most productive uses.

buriram 2 hours ago|||
A corner stone of Economics is Game Theory and Prisoner's Dilemma. You can choose not to do things for profit, but other people will.
goatlover 2 hours ago||
Capitalism is the real ASI running things, and in some cases, ruining.
ciefa 2 hours ago||
They're so butthurt about losing their social status of not being the top intellectuals anymore, I find it hard to take them serious.
ahnick 2 hours ago||
All the nihilism in the AI space is so tiresome. We have a tool now that can accelerate the technological development of our species and actually reach for the stars! How exciting! All these ruminations and lamentations about what it means to be human are downright laughable to people on the front lines of war, living in abject poverty, etc. "Oh, to be so lucky!", I'm sure they'd say.

The luddites and doomers should do the world a favor and go establish a commune in rural Alaska, then they can be happy and the rest of us can get back to building and playing with amazing technology!

happytoexplain 2 hours ago||
It's rationalism, not nihilism.

The luddites were rational.

Telling people to fuck off and go away when they were here first is hideous. You should be humiliated. You should feel unwelcome.

ahnick 1 hour ago|||
No, it's nihilism.

The luddites were not rational.

Telling people they should be humiliated and that they should feel unwelcome is hideous.

I didn't tell people to fuck off. I told them to go do what they want to do and we'll do what we want to do. That's called a win/win.

cdelsolar 2 hours ago|||
No one is telling them that, unless they're the ones starting the fight
crassglassass 1 hour ago||
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DevKoala 2 hours ago|
> dreaming that one day an unfeeling corporate robot[1] will burn a rainforest to compile a list of 700 highly obscure barely-readable facts that might be true that nobody can understand as part of a marketing gimmick to raise hype for an IPO

The climate effect argument against AI is so intellectually dishonest. It’s the same as saying that Tao is on the side of stopping the advancement of Cancer research.

I thought the people clowning him were dumb, but the people arguing for either side are really fighting on a mud pit.