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Posted by hakonjdjohnsen 12 hours ago

I built a drone with only one motor [video](www.youtube.com)
235 points | 42 comments
nadermx 1 hour ago|
This is well worth the entire watch. It feels like what would any hacker do in trying to figure out how to make something they want to exist. Also very well presented and good pace.

Inspires me to try and start doing some robotics.

mikeyouse 1 hour ago|
Love the little side project of building a high resolution high speed camera to investigate the flutter.
JacobAsmuth 45 minutes ago||
Only to figure out that the vibration in his drone was due to vibration and it was easily fixed by swapping to rotors that he should've used in the first place. Oh well! Live and learn.
TGower 2 hours ago||
Underactuated robotics are so cool. In the hobby BattleBots community, there is a design where the whole robot only has a single motor, but it's able to move in any direction and damage the opponent, all just by controlling the single motor's speed.

Most robots have at least three motors, two drive sides and a weapon motor. The trick to getting away with one is integrating an impactor into the chassis of your bot, using the single wheel to spin up to ~3k RPM, then by tracking the rotation angle of the bot as it spins, you speed up a little while the wheel is pointing where you want to go, and slow it down a little when it's pointing the other direction.

Onavo 1 hour ago|
Well not just battlebots, real life 6th gen fighters now all lack the vertical stabilizer so they have to rely on very sensitive real-time software control of the elevator/spoilerons to do banks and yaws. Not sure if it counts as under-actuated but they are tremendously difficult to steer without computer control.
schiffern 49 minutes ago|||

  >Not sure if it counts as under-actuated
Generally these aircraft still have three+ actuators, they just replace the rudder with differential spoiler or split elevons. Three actuators, three axes. Same number, so it's not under-actuated.

You're referencing the fact that it's dynamically unstable, and thus needs to be stabilized with a computer. That's a different thing.

You can also have aircraft which are under-actuated yet are dynamically stable. One example is a parafoil, which achieves controlled flight using only two actuators (pull lines).

jmaw 1 hour ago||||
I'm not super familiar with heavy equipment like dozers and such, but some of them may also have a single motor to pressurize hydraulic fluid and valves to articulate the various pistons. So may be able to make the argument there too
bluGill 1 hour ago|||
That is common and you can't run two different cylinders at the same time. Depends on how the pump and valves are plumbed of course. Sometimes you can run more than one but you split power.
HPsquared 1 hour ago||
That sounds like it could be solved with more valves.
solyin 29 minutes ago||
Or more power ;)
nomel 1 hour ago|||
In that case, the valves/pistons pairs are all independent actuators. The hydraulic motor is more a constant power source for all of them.
KolmogorovComp 1 hour ago|||
> but they are tremendously difficult to steer without computer control.

they are not humanly pilotable without computers. they are inherently unstable.

_joel 53 minutes ago||
This is from the same guy (Joshua Bird) that built the 4 axis 3d printer (and special algo for it too) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEgwnhLHy3g
mr_coffee 3 minutes ago||
Serious question - how do you even learn all of the skills to do something like this? Where would you start?
leoedin 11 hours ago||
A really neat concept. It uses a special hinge design, a magnetic encoder and torque modulation to control the lift of the rotor as it spins. Completely negates the need for a conventional helicopter's swash plate.

The single motor does have the pretty major downside that it spins the moment it's in the air. I suspect a 2 motor drone with a tail motor would be a lot more practical. But I really like how mechanically simple the rotor hinge design is - it pushes all the complexity into the control algorithm.

schiffern 6 hours ago||
Note that the concept itself has been done before in RC helicopters. The only difference here is using a one-propeller drone.

https://hackaday.com/2020/06/25/building-and-flying-a-helico...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d80oXSCcHTk

fwipsy 2 hours ago|||
Yep, he mentions the video you linked as well. (Mentioning because I watched the video you linked first.)
Aboutplants 2 hours ago||
Perhaps there are specific applications where the payload spinning could be an advantage, imaging/scanning perhaps (which in the video is going to be in the next iteration for the builder).
sastra 1 hour ago||
The Picocolissimo also uses only one motor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE47bcCxT_I
justinator 11 minutes ago||
Yeah that's probably the coolest thing I've seen all month. How could you not like this?
subprotocol 2 hours ago||
Reminded me of the Manhack: https://half-life.fandom.com/wiki/Manhack
razster 36 minutes ago||
Slap a MEMS gyroscope on that bad boy. https://www.vectornav.com/resources/inertial-navigation-prim...
ddlsmurf 8 minutes ago|
gyroscopes drift over time, that's why typically you need a kalman filter to combine the strengths of various sensors, magnetometers, where available, are bad at resolution, but don't drift.
mogili 1 hour ago|
It's a pretty cool concept, however, fails to mention coaxial rotor design that has a single motor and has much simpler control systems. I am also curious on how this affects frame vibration.

This is a newer trend in mechanical design that leverages more complex control software to overcome mechanical issues. A good example is https://turntide.com/

nomel 1 hour ago||
If I understand correctly, those are single rotor but NOT single motor. This is a single motor design, which is why it's neat. There are no additional control servos/motors.
stbtrax 1 hour ago||
It’s an entertainmening YouTube video not a phd thesis. Bizzare standard to hold him to
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