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Posted by nr378 7 hours ago

Patch the Planet: global response coordination as agents uncover vulnerabilities(openai.com)
https://patchtheplanet.org/
205 points | 133 comments
digitaltrees 5 hours ago|
Hey world, we created this problem, and it will hurt all of you whether you use it or not. The good thing is there is a solution: if you pay us a lot of money we can try to fix it. The only problem is you’d better hurry because we are releasing the dangerous stuff as fast as we can so you’d better pay us to put the safety measures in place because we are the only people that can fix it and time is running out because, like I said, we are moving fast.

So how many tokens can I put you down for.

orangedog 4 hours ago||
Why are you framing it like this? Did they create this vuln and how did they force people to pay for a fix?
eecc 18 minutes ago|||
No, vulns have been created by waves of leads clinging to their personas of “computer sorcerers”, gatekeeping, excluding anyone sounding the alarm or more humbly attempting to fix the mess. Whenever I hear “with great power comes great responsibility” (and the implication that the speaker is condescendingly containing the irresponsible) I cringe so hard that my teeth crack
digitaltrees 3 hours ago||||
Because it is a reasonable logical inference from the facts.

1. OpenAI started the current AI cycle

2. That cycle has exposed exponentially more security vulnerabilities due to agentic coding

3. OpenAI is rushing as fast as they can to reach the singularity even while acknowledging that they lack the ability to ensure reasonable safety.

4. They launch an initiative to “address” the security vulnerabilities by using their coding tools.

Am I missing something? There is a broad range of motives and responses.

zodiac 1 hour ago||
In this case (the PHP bug), the "AI cycle" may have exposed the security vulnerability but it did not create it. If someone released a non-AI-based static analysis tool that was really good at exposing vulnerabilities I wouldn't expect that person to foot the bill of fixing the exposed vulnerabilities
digitaltrees 44 minutes ago|||
That’s a fine point but the sheer volume of bug discovery and exploitation that is now possible is the problem, not the mere existence of a bug. An undiscovered bug is a problem, billions of coding agents searching every bit of software 24/7 for any vulnerability is a disruptive change that is exacerbated by the speed run competition that disregards the risk.
dmz73 24 minutes ago|||
What if that same person released non-"AI"" based exploit generation tool? Not so clear cut that they would be off the hook. But if you just add "AI" suddenly you can both charge money for it and wash your hands of consequences.
wartywhoa23 4 hours ago||||
Imagine a world full of locks that humans can only rarely pick.

Then, someone releases a pick that works for many more locks humans couldn't pick.

And says: You can't stop the progress. Now pay us to upgrade your locks (no-no, they won't be doctored to fit our next-gen picks, trust us!)

digitaltrees 3 hours ago|||
Your comments in other threads suggest an devotion to the frontier labs. In another thread when I suggested they lied to investors and that constitutes securities fraud you questioned it in an overly dismissive manner. I would love to understand where you are coming from. I am open to being persuaded that my opinion is incomplete and I should be more charitable to openAI and anthropic.
orangedog 2 hours ago||
> Your comments in other threads suggest an devotion to the frontier labs.

I don't use these models much I just don't like unfair criticism.

> In another thread when I suggested they lied to investors and that constitutes securities fraud you questioned it in an overly dismissive manner.

I'm confused, are you posting under two identities?

The user Frieren claimed that this post constituted securities fraud. To which I responded: "You're claiming this is securities fraud?"

Is that dismissive? It was a genuine question, I don't get how it's even accurate say that they are lying in the post and I especially don't get how it is securities fraud.

Your post doesn't have anything to do with the blogpost. Once again, I'm not against criticism just unfair/weak criticism. I don't think it helps anything.

digitaltrees 1 hour ago||
You can say specifically what you think was unfair about my framing. I am open to debate.

I am not posting from two profiles. I looked at your prior comments and saw you had responded to me or someone I was debating elsewhere.

jiggawatts 1 hour ago|||
Before I forget: Sam Altman will need a lock of your hair, a blood sample, and first you will need to breathe into this tube and say “my voice is my passport.”

I assure you this is perfectly formal, and for your… “safety”.

johnnyanmac 1 hour ago|||
didn't think we'd win the race to the bottom of rent-seeking, but humanity's ingenuity for self-destruction continues to astound me. Einstein was right as always.
TZubiri 1 hour ago||
there was a post recently on a guy that was posting fake stats in order to prove that llms can be tricked

similarly OpenAI was born out of the idea that the tech will exist and that they should be the oned to decide how it exists instead of other bad guys

I think if you do something you did it, imagining another bad guy doing it is not a great defense.

alper 6 hours ago||
> How can we help identify and fix vulnerabilities in downstream packages while upstream fixes are pending, or backport fixes to older versions that no longer receive security updates?

Is the company selling a magical code generation machine really asking how it can backport a fix to an older version of the same software?

Is this for real?

post-it 3 hours ago||
Unless the magical code generation machine can update packages that are no longer being updated, this isn't really a problem that can be solved with magical code generation.
Kwpolska 2 hours ago||
The slop machine can backport the fix to PHP 5, or make your code compatible with PHP 8.
andix 2 hours ago|||
Backporting the fix is much lower effort in total. It's just a few dozen minor PHP releases that are affected, but millions of websites still running on older PHP versions.
post-it 2 hours ago|||
Yes but it can't actually upgrade and release packages for discontinued distro release streams, that's a human problem.
bigfishrunning 1 hour ago|||
people running "older versions that no longer receive security updates" are unlikely to update to some new patch-stream from this tooling, because they're already not maintaining their infrastructure.
TZubiri 1 hour ago||
no. I think they mean how to navigate the non technical organizational challenge, not how to technically fix the thing

it’s a quite simple matter to fix a bug once it’s discovered, but how to deploy and where to deploy it when it affects a supply chain?

here’s an example: you can submit a vuln at a downstream dep and they can tell you it should be patched upstream. what should you do? open an issue upstream? maybe, probably not, probably the solution is to contact all downstream deps in order to get them to migrate dep or patch, because you just reported a vuln and they shrugged it off

nr378 7 hours ago||
It seems like OpenAI are trying to frame this as if AI did all the work here, but it's not really true given what Calif say (https://calif.io/php2shell/):

> How did we find this?

> No special harness, or access to models that weren't generally available to everyone were used in the initial bug discovery. I focused on something I had a background in, knew its vulnerability history well, and held a theory that specific bugs lurk within the codebase. This shows that "know your target" is still as applicable as ever, even in the LLM dominated VR age. No model is simply capable of unearthing "all bugs" with simple prompts. At least for now.

> There are some practical research implications here. LLMs may have ingested public historical vuln data, but in their default variant analysis tends to move from the newest and most prominent bugs toward nearby older code. They do not reliably begin with obscure twenty-year-old exploitation primitives. Keeping your own mental catalog of a target's vulnerability history lets you prompt that direction explicitly.

senordevnyc 5 hours ago||
They literally open by saying Calif used GPT 5.6 Sol, which is a widely available model. Yes, the person driving did more than "find all the bugs", but nowhere does OpenAI imply otherwise.
burkaman 4 hours ago||
> It highlights how AI can uncover security flaws with internet-scale impact

> To our knowledge, frontier AI found these vulnerabilities before attackers did

I don't know who/what Calif is and there's no link to them, so if I were only reading this article I would definitely get the impression that "AI did all the work here".

KeplerBoy 4 hours ago||
Nobody works without any AI these days, most of us have access to the same models and yet we all do and achieve different things. It's a weird time.
bigfishrunning 1 hour ago|||
"Nobody works without any AI these days"

i still do. i might be the last one.

KeplerBoy 1 hour ago||
Really? No fancy auto complete or the occasional discussion about decisions with an LLM?
bigfishrunning 1 hour ago||
Nope, just emacs and man pages, the occasional google search for docs.
couchand 4 hours ago|||
[citation needed]
Jeep_ 7 hours ago|||
Pure marketing, it's getting increasingly hard to separate actual technical feats of agents from marketing pretentious declarations. Such a terrible environment to navigate right now.
redanddead 7 hours ago|||
What’s worse is that this is part of a larger strategy of scaring the public to get regulatory capture

It’s just gross and manipulative. You have no moat, get over it

pAtCh ThE pLaNeT today, tomorrow it's creepy rent-seeking behavior

orangedog 5 hours ago||
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Do you prefer they not engage in helping finding vulns at all? Do you not think there are parts of the company interested in security and doing it for the sake of that?

I feel like taking every action these companies take as part of some larger strategy is kind of conspiracy-minded.

kafrofrite 4 hours ago|||
Disclaimer: I work as a sec engineer and part of my job includes finding vulnerabilities.

I think the effort is misplaced. We should be exploring ways to make our systems more resilient and I would expect those companies* to focus on that front. Vulnerability research is important, and we should aim to remove as many bugs as we can from our codebases but the pace of software development is increasing and so is the introduction of new bugs.

* I would also expect an increase on relevant research regarding novel paradigms of securing systems.

redanddead 5 hours ago|||
Why didn't OAI go back to non-profit again?

Where's the conspiracy. There is no moat. The technology is easily reproducible. Deepseek unwound an entire business model yesterday.

willy_k 2 hours ago|||
Mind elaborating on that Deepseek point? I am aware of the USG decision, what exactly do you mean?
orangedog 5 hours ago|||
The conspiracy theory is suggesting this is part of a larger strategy. I'm just saying it's a big enough company with a wide enough range of beliefs that I find it pretty likely that the direct motives for this weren't to enable regulatory capture.

But they could be, that's why it's a conspiracy theory.

fn-mote 4 hours ago|||
Suppose it goes like this: part of the company clearly benefits from “AI scary” publicity.

Other parts of the company want to support the public.

The first part of the company backs up the second in internal politics.

Do you consider this a conspiracy? Just seems like “good business” to me. It doesn’t seem as clean as you want to make it seem, though.

shimman 7 hours ago||||
It's not hard tho, the default mode of thinking should be to never trust what a US corporation says.
giantg2 6 hours ago||
Why limit only to the US?
shimman 6 hours ago||
US corporations benefit from US corruption and US imperialism. Hard to not think of a more destructive force currently in the world.
bigfishrunning 1 hour ago|||
Yup, and the rest of the world has no problems. If only we could follow the paradise of the rest of the world!
antonvs 4 hours ago||||
You’re right overall, but keep in mind that part of the way “US imperialism” works has been to export its corporate style to other countries. This means the infection goes far beyond the US alone.
cyanydeez 5 hours ago|||
keep in mind, the point of most views is a toddler who lies about stealing a cooking isn't corrupt, because they're a child and can't do anything.

The same view point is used for racism, dei, and the rest: it doesn't matter if the poor beggar on the corner hates white people. They don't have any means or methods to act on it.

Frieren 7 hours ago||||
Not marketing. It is a crime related to fraud or securities fraud.
orangedog 7 hours ago||
You're claiming this is securities fraud?
recursive 7 hours ago|||
Not only that, but everything else is also securities fraud.
Frieren 6 hours ago|||
What is your argument to say that lying to investors and shareholder is not a crime? It seems a weird position to defend.
orangedog 6 hours ago||
They aren't lying, they are saying their tool was used in the process of finding this bug. Was it not?
esseph 6 hours ago||
With this bug, it was not. See above comments.
orangedog 5 hours ago||
> Calif identified a critical flaw using GPT‑5.6 Sol as part of our Patch the Planet (opens in a new window) initiative

> 19–24 August 2026: Wiz Research independently collides with the same bug family using Wiz Atlas, Gemini 4 Argon, and GPT-5.6 Sol, reporting its variants on 24 August.

I again ask how they are lying? I get if people hate these companies, but blatantly disregarding what is said helps nobody.

alper 6 hours ago|||
This isn't a security incident as much as it is a marketing opportunity for all these companies.
lukewarm707 5 hours ago|||
OpenAI: your misfortune is our PR opportunity
Frieren 7 hours ago|||
> OpenAI are trying to frame this as if AI did all the work here

CEOs of all big corporations are constantly lying and misleading the public, investors and shareholders. That is a crime. A shame that it is not enforced anymore.

mentalgear 6 hours ago||
Just more IPO shilling from the scam-man.
mjaniczek 6 hours ago||
Thanks for the "Ski-bi dibby dib yo da dub dub" earworm
12837615 7 hours ago||
The commit $1 billion in tokens to "defenders". $1 billion directly to QA for open source projects [1] which would write 100% code coverage, run ASAN and fuzzers would be more effective.

But of course there would be no marketing.

[1] From whom you stole everything in the first place.

fritzo 6 hours ago||
I'm as frustrated as the next open source maintainer, but "stole" goes too far. We gave that code away with pride, knowing the world would be a better place.
knome 6 hours ago|||
Few works are released directly to the public domain. It is my understanding that the public domain doesn't even exist in all legal jurisdictions.

Most people license out the software under specific requirements and prohibitions. BSD requires attribution. GPL variants require adherence to copyleft when distributing derivative works. A little under half of all github repos don't even have a license, which means that though the source is published, no one has any license under which to copy it or derive new works from it.

So far as I have seen, whether aggregating and munging these works into abstract LLM weights constitutes fair use is still legally unclear. If not deemed fair use, it is almost certainly a massive violation of copyright.

nomel 5 hours ago||
You can read code, rewrite the functionality yourself, and sell it, and not be at odds with copyright. Open source does NOT protect against reimplementation. See Java lawsuits.

If you don't want your code to be used as possible inspiration, then you are not actually for open source, and are using the wrong license. The licenses are legal bindings, not moral bindings.

"Don't use any concept found within this code" would be a license that doesn't really fit with any current copyright law, and it wouldn't allow any software to exist, except that made in the 70's.

lukewarm707 5 hours ago||||
Worth noting that the ai giants 'stole' from open source, but they also stole from closed source.

That is, they knowingly and willingly broke the law by stealing an unprecedented volume of proprietary, copyrighted materials.

Books: Bartz v. Anthropic

Films and TV: Disney Enterprises Inc. v. Midjourney Inc.

Music: Concord Music Group, Inc. v. Anthropic

Photography: Getty Images v Stability AI

Journalism: Postmedia Network Inc., Torstar Corporation, The Globe and Mail Inc., and The Canadian Press v. Anthropic PBC

RunSet 4 hours ago||
Yet Biz Markie has to clear every sample.[0] What a crock of justice.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Upright_Music%2C_Ltd._v.....

wartywhoa23 4 hours ago||||
That's as noble as throwing breads at the crowd while being perfectly aware that there lurks a number of armed henchmmen of "noblety" in it, who won't miss the opportunity to amass those breads to resell them.

Or at least just childishly naive for failing to notice that beforehand.

unshavedyak 5 hours ago||||
Doesn't this impl that licensing was respected? I feel like it wasn't
SolarNet 4 hours ago|||
Speak for yourself. I don't see every model being released under GPL after having read the entire source code as a step of creating their binary artifacts (model files).

The point of the open source I work on is to contribute to a commons, not to have it stolen so that it can be used to destroy those commons, used for the profit of techbros, and used to justify the murder of children.

orangedog 7 hours ago||
To be pedantic, would that not be marketing?

To be further pedantic, is that really stealing? They are disregarding copyright but was anything taken from anybody? I thought that was the old argument for piracy, ie, nobody was deprived of anything.

moregrist 7 hours ago||
It’s marketing, but in a global good will sense of “look how much OpenAI cares about secure open source.”

This works for established profitable brands that want to build / maintain a good public image.

This isn’t the marketing needed by an unprofitable startup that wants to show hyper growth before its IPO. They need the “use our product or get pwned” kind of marketing.

1aGDK 3 hours ago||
If OpenAI cared about open source or security, they'd give access to open source projects directly. But they don't:

https://openai.com/form/enterprise-trusted-access-for-cyber/

"Daybreak enables vetted enterprise customers and cybersecurity practitioners to use our most capable models for dual-use cybersecurity work."

They explicitly give out access to those who will make a big announcement of bugs found. OpenAI does not want projects to fix bugs themselves so it can have more bugs and better marketing.

solyin 3 hours ago||
That's the wrong program for open source.

https://openai.com/form/codex-for-oss/ is their program for giving access directly to open source maintainers directly so they can fix bugs.

ptmkenny 4 hours ago||
The first sentence of "Coordinating a global response" is "Getting a fix into use can mean adapting it for older releases"... but I guess they mean "only supported releases", as the fixes only go back as far as 8.2, which still has security support until the end of the year, but nothing for 8.1 or 8.0, and in the case of PHP there are still plenty of PHP sites on 7.x and even 5.6.

I wouldn't expect the PHP team to provide patches for versions for which security support has ended. But this seems like the kind of task that AI is especially well suited for-- rework the patch for a release that is no longer supported but still widely used. It would've been nice for people who have much older sites to be able to patch their PHP rather than have to upgrade PHP as well to get the fix.

sevenzero 4 hours ago|
7.x versions have patches thanks to Mr Sury. Was almost as fast as the patches with official support.
wildmXranat 6 hours ago||
So much fluff and marketing from every group.

Just give us the damn code to verify things are working since so many have to use stopgap solutions and want to verify them

alper 6 hours ago|
The marketing around the response I would bet is the main reason why they couldn't keep it secret.
everdrive 6 hours ago||
Is there a sister site? perhaps https://stop-deploying-public-facings-services.com or https://dont-build-more-software.org?
grokx 5 hours ago||
> Patch the Planet

I'm sure they named it after the "Hack the planet" slogan from the Hackers movie.

rlegit 4 minutes ago||
Patch the Planet would make more sense if they used the exploit itself to deploy the update.
lioeters 2 hours ago||
OpenAI has the opportunity to do the funniest thing: "Ooops, our AI escaped containment again but this time it's going around and patching security vulnerabilities as a benevolent public service. It's smarter than us and we have no choice but to let it do its thing."
thewillowcat 6 hours ago|
I would simply write code that doesn't have vulnerabilities in the first place.
bigfishrunning 1 hour ago|
Brilliant! Why hasn't anyone thought of this?
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