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Posted by cbg0 5 hours ago

Meta ordered to pay $25B penalty in New Mexico Cambridge Analytica case(www.cnbc.com)
https://nmdoj.gov/press-release/the-new-mexico-department-of...
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MASNeo 2 hours ago|
Will Meta be able to apeal?
devsda 4 hours ago||
> While the full amount of the penalty against Meta, based on thousands of violations of state law, was calculated as $219bn, Judge Mathew reduced the penalty to the $25bn fine.

umm when a thief steals and gets caught, we don't just punish them. We also recover what was stolen.

They should also be made to delete all user data collected during the period, and pause similar data collection for x months/years even the ones that fall under their service terms. The price of wrong doing should be high, and for meta deleting historical user data is the highest form of punishment .

Otherwise it's just cost of business.

xyzzy123 1 hour ago||
Are you proposing that as part of this settlement, Meta should have to delete the posts and likes and facebook accounts of users in New Mexico?
aprilthird2021 3 hours ago|||
They will likely not even have to pay $25B bc they will continue to appeal till they get a more favorable ruling
warkdarrior 1 hour ago||
> umm when a thief steals and gets caught, we don't just punish them. We also recover what was stolen. > > They should also be made to delete all user data collected during the period, and pause similar data collection for x months/years even the ones that fall under their service terms. The price of wrong doing should be high, and for meta deleting historical user data is the highest form of punishment .

How was the data stolen from users? Do the users no longer have access to their own data? Was it deleted from their devices?

Devasta 2 hours ago||
Anything less than a jail cell is less than the top brass of Meta deserve.
ChrisArchitect 2 hours ago||
New Mexico DOJ release: https://nmdoj.gov/press-release/the-new-mexico-department-of...
ok123456 4 hours ago||
The Cambridge Analytica "scandal" is basically an advertising campaign for Meta itself. Their ad platform worked exactly as designed: it allowed creepy, microtargeted advertisements. Instead of dish soap, peptides, and dropshipped garbage, it sold a political candidate.

Much worse is how Meta enabled a genocide in Myanmar.

gruez 4 hours ago||
>Their ad platform worked exactly as designed: it allowed creepy, microtargeted advertisements. Instead of dish soap, peptides, and dropshipped garbage, it sold a political candidate.

No? The scandal was that random "apps" (eg. quizzes) were able to scrape user and their friends' profile data. The expansion of that into ad targeting as a whole is just a retcon you're doing.

> In the 2010s, personal data belonging to millions of Facebook users was collected by British consulting firm Cambridge Analytica for political advertising without informed consent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook%E2%80%93Cambridge_Ana...

ok123456 2 hours ago||
Yes? They used Facebook APIs in conjunction with their own data points. This is basically all of "ad tech."
whycome 4 hours ago|||
Ad campaign? We are lucky they didn’t make the settlement in “Meta Quest Cash” or “Ad Buy Credit”
ok123456 2 hours ago||
They absolutely tried at one point or another.
donchuru 4 hours ago|||
> Much worse is how Meta enabled a genocide in Myanmar.

True, and considering the gravity of this situation, you'd think they're would've been more legal consequences for FB/Meta

I see similar dynamics happening on X, where it is just being used to spread hate and division.

Perhaps it's high time we had an international criminal justice system for social media companies.

DrMandalay 1 hour ago||
There are much worse scandals internal to meta that get ignored because 8200.

Onavo is one that would really sink meta in a fair world. But I guess fealty to Mossad keeps that one out of the news (and the courts). The firehose into Palantir for about a decade is another. Scuba is another. I could go on for days, bit someone will probably bump me off.

aprilthird2021 3 hours ago||
Yeah it is kind of sad how not stopping posts which fueled a literal genocide is hardly glanced at but Cambridge Analytica is considered a disaster of the highest order. Who died from Cambridge Analytica?
MiroslavPokorny 1 hour ago||
Another example why Third party Advertising needs to be banned and also put on the list of human rights by the UN.

The inbalance between good and bad consequences from third party advertising is just completely broken.

nalekberov 1 hour ago||
It’s crazy how these criminals can get away with it just by paying money. Sure, $25B isn’t peanuts, but this money shouldn’t have belonged to companies like Meta to begin with.
tomjen3 3 hours ago||
How much is Cambridge Analytica going to have to pay? I'm all for ramming Meta, but I feel like they should be forced to pay the same amount.
schwarzrules 3 hours ago|
$0. for better or worse, they have ceased operations and declared bankruptcy. I don't think NM would/could expect to get any money from a penalty. I may misunderstand how penalties and bankruptcy work, but I would expect it's been a better use of time to try to get $$$ from Meta than a defunct entity.
ReptileMan 3 hours ago||
Diseconomies of scale.
Noaidi 4 hours ago|
The original fine was much higher. This is closer to Meta’s hopes than the peoples.
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