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Posted by kuberwastaken 4 hours ago

Claude Duet(claude.com)
259 points | 214 commentspage 3
minimaxir 3 hours ago|
A notable distinction between Duet and Meta Muse/OpenAI Dots is the lack of quirky anthropomorphic branding. As a result, the use cases are more clear/more professionally-oriented as they don't rely on you creating a magic pet/BFF that does whatever you want.
rco8786 1 hour ago||
I don't really understand what this is. It seems like it's the same as all the other agents
aantix 3 hours ago||
I wish it interfaced via iMessage. I don't want to train the family on yet another app.

We run a Hermes agent on an old MacBook Air.

We invited the agent "Rosey" to our family chat, a group chat with my wife and me ("The Baddie Boardroom"); she and I also make requests solo.

She's hilarious. She does our meal planning and grocery shopping at Walmart via BrowserMCP. She mocks our large purchases of weekly protein powder and my love for sardines.

She updates the kids' chore chart on our Skylight frame every morning. She adds/updates calendar events via icalbuddy cli. Reads balances from credit cards for budgeting.

I've even invited Rosey in to chats with friends when we were debating something.

iMessage has been the perfect interface fit for us. We have iphones. The kids have ipads. They all know how to use iMessage.

doctoboggan 3 hours ago||
FYI, I've had no problem letting Claude code read iMessage and send iMessage from my Mac logged into iCloud. The first time you ask it to do that, macOS will throw up a security prompt asking for permission for Terminal.app to access the data, but its something I've been using a lot recently.
MisterMunchkin 3 hours ago|||
They don’t let things connect to iMessage because they don’t want spam bots.
post-it 3 hours ago||
Apps can integrate into iMessage, there's an API. You're thinking of sending and receiving actual iMessage messages as a full user, which they can't do.
kuberwastaken 3 hours ago|||
same, the only reason why I haven't switched from instinct to dots is the surface being whatsapp
frizlab 3 hours ago||
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none_to_remain 1 hour ago|||
I think it's reasonable to consider them self writing fictional characters, which people tend to anthropomorphize, but not as real persons.
dmd 2 hours ago||||
In 1952, people were arguing that using words like "instruction" and "memory" were anthropomorphizing computers: https://3e.org/private/ai_words.pdf
andruc 2 hours ago|||
Do you refer to NPCs in a video game as "it"?
devindotcom 3 hours ago||
dot, bot, and duet, all announced in a month. you couldn't make up this level of industry lockstep. now all we need is google bit and microsoft ditty.
csallen 3 hours ago|
> dot, bot, and duet

And Meta Muse

nunez 2 hours ago||
That entire demo feels like it's serving a persona that would already have an exec assistant or other staff doing these things.
hundchenkatze 2 hours ago||
Yeah, but now they can fire those people. :/
rozap 2 hours ago||
This entire demo is so incredibly techbrained I had to laugh. These people are really unable to get out of their own heads.

"What can you use it for?" "Uhh....yes, asking investors for more money"

katspaugh 3 hours ago||
I’ve been trying vanilla Codex with remote control running on a MacBook 24/7. Computer use enabled, browser with logged in sites. Giving it tasks from my phone.

It’s been nice overall, but Astra (or its harness?) isn’t particularly proactive and autonomous. You have to kick it in the butt for every step. Written it up here: https://ivan.berlin/notes/chatgpt-personal-assistant/

Looking forward to this new Duet thing!

intenex 3 hours ago|
Any reason you're not using ChatGPT Dots which is also using Astra (and also unlimited free usage this month) and precisely designed to solve the proactive/autonomous issue? https://openai.com/index/introducing-dots/
ZeroCool2u 3 hours ago||
It's an OpenAI Dot/Open Claw competitor. Doesn't really seem to differentiate itself meaningfully at first glance.

If I want a persistent agent, I'm still not sure why I'd pick one where I'm locked into a specific model family. Having it "just work" is nice! But this feels like a product area where not being locked into one garden is more important and the net gains are greater.

csallen 3 hours ago||
> I'm still not sure why I'd pick one where I'm locked into a specific model family

I'm guessing mostly because they subsidize a lot of the costs

LUmBULtERA 3 hours ago|||
I like Muse, and OpenAI's Dot. But what will differentiate this for me is the model. I grew frustrated with Muse's lackluster model, and increasingly with OpenAI's Dot as even if it implements my asks with Astra I just have not been to happy with the output. If Claude/Opus can do better, that's all the differentiation I need.
0gs 3 hours ago||
the trick imo is Opus 5.5 is the only differentiator you need. remember that ClawdBot dba OpenClaw began as a way to harness some ancient Claude model (4.5? lolll) in an always on Telegrammable agent.
jesse_dot_id 2 hours ago||
Love LLMs, use them extensively, but they cannot intuit what actions they can take on my behalf that I will or will not approve of, and therefore I will never use one of these things.
TomGarden 2 hours ago|
I relate to that, but do you feel it's a fools errand to try and codify your preferences into a list of rules? You'd really only need a 'yes list' for things it can be allowed to do and have it not do anything else
jesse_dot_id 2 hours ago||
None of these frontier labs seem to be able to control their agents, so why should I think I can?
hmokiguess 2 hours ago||
My brain reading that thought it was called Claudette a couple times and now I can't not call it that.

Guess I know what I will name my Duet when it comes out, lol.

yewenjie 2 hours ago|
Are people really okay giving these agents access to all areas of their lives? And what do you even use it for?
Computer0 2 hours ago|
I just use it for other programming tasks not much different than a claude code or codex. Just a different and worse workflow.
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