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Posted by passenger 4 hours ago

Railway Security Disclosure(blog.railway.com)
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minraws 4 hours ago||
how are the secrets decrypted, I would like some explanation so that I can have some understanding here, I am starting to feel like all these companies are just meme-ing with their security posture.

Like did someone vibe code too hard, how do env secrets leak for everyone...

9cb14c1ec0 3 hours ago|
Easy, all the bad guys need to do is access whatever system stores the decryption keys.
1-6 3 hours ago||
It's time for competent programmers to get rehired to help patch massive exploits that are about to unfold before us.
dylanz 2 hours ago||
I'm rotating production secrets all night... great. I confirmed that they've actually used many of my secret keys already.
eclipticplane 17 minutes ago|
Which secrets were they using?
ksajadi 1 hour ago||
someone managed to get the environment variables AND the encryption keys for those? i feel for the secops engineers over there right now. brutal
gbnwl 4 hours ago||
The past two days have been awful as someone who uses Railway.
eecks 3 hours ago||
Huh, I've been using Railway tonight and this was the first I've seen of this. Just got an email about it now too at 23:36
MattIPv4 4 hours ago||
Related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50177413
wateralien 4 hours ago||
Is this our new AI daily reality?
pizzafeelsright 1 hour ago||
script kiddies now have access to frontier models. bad
cindyllm 53 minutes ago||
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iririririr 3 hours ago||
companies probably have php and Python applications exposed to the web and nobody knows.

the speed of irresponsible deployments is infinite now, by design

paxy 4 hours ago|
It’s funny that every security breach disclosure now has a mandatory “the attacker used AI!” as if it absolves you from having to maintain a secure system. If anything it makes the situation more damning. If it was possible to find exploits using AI then your own red teaming should have found them before the attacker did.
tokioyoyo 3 hours ago||
Defending is so much harder than attacking. You don't even have to focus on one target, as you can just mass-AI-script a lot of attacks wherever it's possible, and see what sticks. Even if you did everything right, there's always the social-engineering angle, or a single compromised device, or just accidental bad upgrade through supply chain. If you can mass-spread the seed, and plant something that "calls home" constantly, you can just have an agent that would start the attack the minute it gets infected, and go deeper.

It's really a wild west right now, have no idea how we fix it. I'm assuming everything will get more concentrated in big co's hands, as having a very robust security is extremely hard.

Also, we have to agree that younger people will start companies. There will be small companies that cannot afford red teams. There will be companies that are just not equipped, and their profit margins cannot sustain constant attacks.

nrmitchi 3 hours ago|||
> It’s funny that every security breach disclosure now has a mandatory “the attacker used AI!”

This isn't in the article? They do not at all claim "the attacked used AI!".

The only mention of "AI" is "We believe this is part of a series of attacks recently targeting platform companies with the aim of compromising AI inference providers." This is the same (apparently) end-goal as the Opencode breach last week, and is not blaming or finger-point at AI. It is stating (rightfully) that AI inference is very easy to resell and turn stolen credentials into cash.

arcanemachiner 4 hours ago|||
> your own red teaming should have found them before the attacker did

Easier said than done. The defender has to do everything right, all the time, to prevent a headline like this. The attacker only needs to be right once, and it's game over. AI or no AI.

gkoberger 4 hours ago|||
Unless they edited the post, they never said this. You should delete this; it's false information.
mbreese 3 hours ago|||
I didn’t actually see that in this post at all. They mention that the end goal of the attackers might be to get to AI inference providers. But I don’t think they are crying “AI was used” here.

Or did I miss something?

ndneighbor 59 minutes ago||
We (Railway) make no claims about the tools the attacker used in the above post.

However, from discussions with partners, it resembled the pattern of attacks to secure AI API tokens and credentials. Preliminary forensics tell us that this was the primary goal of their attack. That said, I want to be careful here commenting until we have our formal public post-mortem.

barrrrald 4 hours ago||
This one doesn’t?
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