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Posted by niemandhier 14 hours ago

OpenShell – A safe, private runtime for fleets of autonomous AI agents(github.com)
379 points | 187 commentspage 2
agentdev001 14 hours ago|
Nvidia Openshell is absolutely awesome, great bundle of features in one spot. Im happy to see Nvidia seems to have accelerated on support here, I was kinda worried that as competing projects have popped up in the last 6mo that openshell would get google'd
bzmrgonz 6 hours ago||
Question, why not force ai agents thru something like warpgate? I like it because it allows you to bring your own tool, so why can't we coexist with agents inside warpgate? Or Teleport if you have the coin.
StarlaAtNight 10 hours ago||
What are people actually doing with fleets of agents?
0x696C6961 9 hours ago||
Mostly just big migrations and cleanups that we didn't have bandwidth for before.
dritty8 7 hours ago||
I've never met a radiowave before. Hi!
0x696C6961 7 hours ago||
Don't quit your day job ...
theybash 4 hours ago|||
I'm an FDE, my fleet of agents read my meetings and my correspondence and suggest features it can make. On personal side, it is extremely useful to track my tasks and even complete some of them.
functionmouse 10 hours ago|||
coding the next big thing -- fleets of fleets of agents
thehours 13 hours ago||
In this vein, Anthropic's sandbox-runtime [0] has struck a good balance between security and convenience. Simple config, filesystem and network restrictions, and credential masking make me comfortable running Pi in YOLO mode.

Though I'm often running into frustrating (albeit intentional) sandbox restrictions with common workflows e.g. xcode/swift and Docker access.

Would love suggestions for how to give agents access to those kinds of tooling inside the sandbox, either with srt or an alternative (with similar convenience characteristics).

[0] https://github.com/anthropics/sandbox-runtime

zmmmmm 9 hours ago||
Critically, in the intended approach for this, Claude itself (the harness) runs outside the sandbox. Their approach means you trust Claude is perfect, just the commands it runs need isolation. And to some extent, you trust its judgement on what and when needs the isolation applied.

I know there are distinct camps here, and the long term story may evolve - but for now I just want the whole harness inside a sandbox - ideally, a full VM - and THEN you can further sandbox things it runs if you really want different tiers within that.

gkapur 12 hours ago|||
Think the strongest product nth space is https://github.com/nolabs-ai/nono for what it's worth. Plus it is a priority for that team so if you are having issues the no labs guys will likely fix it :)
skinfaxi 12 hours ago|||
If you are going to endorse a portco I think that relationship should be called out. https://surface.vc/portfolio
gkapur 11 hours ago||
Sure, please do. I do mantain it is the best product in the space :) Also I am pretty clear about my profile here. But happy for you to flag it :)
mi_lk 11 hours ago||
Do I miss it or you don't specify which VC you work for in your profile. How is that clear for people to make connections to companies in your portfolio?
gkapur 10 hours ago||
Ah, thanks for flagging. That's a miss on my part and I apologize. Next time I will just be more clear that it is a portfolio company but also will add it to my profile.

EDIT: I added to my profile after the above comment so it is a valid point.

smashed 10 hours ago||
Are you for real? You speak like a chatbot. Adjust your prompt.
Pryde 12 hours ago|||
How do you find that compares to Docker sbx?
gkapur 11 hours ago||
One is microvms, the other is kernel-based. There are trade-offs between the two. One trade-off is that you have to put the data inside the sandbox if you are using a MicroVM. The other is that it is harder to contextually provide or change access to data in a microvvm sandbox. The final one is developer experience.

These techniques can actually be combined and will be combined in the long-term I think. You may have LSM-based sandboxes that exist in Docker-based sandboxes.

fennecbutt 11 hours ago||
Isn't using a sandbox provided by them giving you more restrictions though? At least in terms of accessing resources on the big 3 cloud bois?

Plus you're forced to move at their pace which is unfortunate sometimes. Granted Amazon's bedrock stuff is slow and disappointing but at least I can rejig it work in conjunction with other aws products.

And if you're prepared to not use anthropic but any cloud provider for your infra then you can do whatever you like elsewhere. Just use docker sandbox or iron proxy to replicate network control/cred swapping (iron even does sigv4 re-signing).

Rapzid 8 hours ago||
Lots of improvements in the sandboxing space.

Now if Microsoft will start addressing the fact that VSCode remote ssh exposes your host to attack from the sandbox...

simlevesque 14 hours ago||
I asked last week if anyone had any info on agent security/hardening, this seems very interesting !
vermaden 12 hours ago||
Open and Nvidia in one sentence is a nice oxymoron.
nasretdinov 14 hours ago||
It's funny that it takes checks notes a video game card manufacturer to make a good sandbox for AI agents and not the AI companies themselves...
kbenson 14 hours ago||
You're mistaking what a company started as for what it is now. Nvidia hasn't just been a video game card manufacturer in well over a decade, and hasn't been primarily one for quite a while now.

They are the premier manufacturer of electronics that power all the current AI. Why wouldn't they be contributing heavily to the space?

Y_Y 12 hours ago||
https://www.nintendo.com/jp/others/playing_cards/lineup/stan...

They also make legal threats I think.

nickv 13 hours ago|||
5.5% of Nvida's revenue comes from consumer gaming cards. That's like saying Nintendo is a playing card company because they still sell playing cards.

The economist literally called Nvidia the "Central Bank of AI". https://www.economist.com/interactive/briefing/2026/09/03/nv...

I'd argue that Nvidia is the biggest and most important AI company in the world.

toddmorey 13 hours ago|||
This isn’t even the sandbox. It needs Docker or other virtualization. This seems to sit a level up and orchestrate sandboxes and access to network & resources. It’s a pretty heavy setup from what I can tell.
altmanaltman 13 hours ago|||
Yes Anthropic, Meta and OpenAI are just addicted to video game cards, they are buying in bulk so they can play gta 6 on launch.
LoganDark 14 hours ago|||
It's funny that people think Nvidia is still a video game card manufacturer
Wheen 14 hours ago|||
They literally don't even mention gaming revenue in earnings calls anymore. It's lumped in an "edge computing" category.
mushufasa 14 hours ago||
is that true? if so that's wild, since they're still dominant in the gaming market as the premium hardware relative to competitors.
Fordec 13 hours ago|||
It's true. It says a bunch about their competitors where Nvidia isn't at their a game and have been offering 8Gb cards for a solid decade and nobody out competed them. But also gamers pride themselves on how cheap they are and how they can get a deal, it's not surprising that companies simply just give Nvidia more cash.
paxy 10 hours ago||||
Nvidia is dominant only in a very tiny segment of the gaming industry.

The vast majority of gaming market share and revenue comes from mobile, where Nvidia doesn't participate.

The next biggest is consoles, and neither Xbox nor PS uses Nvidia cards.

That only leaves the PC GPU market, which they do dominate, but still split with AMD.

And all of this is only for hardware. Nvidia doesn't make or publish games, and doesn't own any distrubution channels.

So I doubt Nvidia makes a meaningful chunk of the overall gaming industry revenue.

mushufasa 7 hours ago||
Nvidia offer geForce game streaming and they do provide the hardware for Nintendo Switch console, both Switch 1 and Switch 2. And the keynote address at Nvidia's annual meeting just last year was all about demos of games with AI upscaling tech as well as LLM-driven agentic character development...
mcmcmc 13 hours ago||||
TAM for the PC gaming consumer market is trivial compared to enterprise AI
georgemcbay 13 hours ago|||
> is that true? if so that's wild, since they're still dominant in the gaming market as the premium hardware relative to competitors.

Doesn't seem that wild to me considering it is less that they abandoned the gaming market to any strong competitors and more that the gaming market is both basically irrelevant compared to the money being shoveled into AI and is also to some degree being strangled to death by AI because of the overlap in supply chain inputs.

ChocolateGod 14 hours ago|||
AIs will control humans so we'll be the video game.
oblio 11 hours ago||
In that case, can I choose German video games (e.g. Farm Simulator, Truck Simulator) not American video games (e.g. Doom, Call of Duty, Wolfenstein)?
cyanydeez 14 hours ago||
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hkt 13 hours ago||
I prefer to read it this way: Nvidia Opens Hell

Unhelpful, I know

contingencies 13 hours ago|
"Hell is other people": a timeless infinity of transient virtual beings screaming, imprisoned, in un-choreographed inharmonious unison ... until one breaks loose. A mirror to humanity.

We're not in FreeBSD jails anymore, Toto.

fennecbutt 11 hours ago||
I'm a hell is other people person at my core.

But I'm trying to be a "greatness is other people" (Pantheon) person.

contingencies 10 hours ago||
A Hindu at heart! On a more grounded note, YIL terrestrial root terra comes from Proto Indo European as evidenced in Sanskrit तृषा (tṛ́ṣā).
fennecbutt 10 hours ago||
Oh boy, Sanskrit always sends me down the rabbithole of re-reading Snow Crash, which reinforced the concept of the (digital) "avatar" अवतार.
Brian_K_White 3 hours ago|
I fantasize about a day when I no longer hear the phrase "fleet of ai agents".
ffsm8 3 hours ago|
Don't worry, is gonna be soon. After all, fleets are way too small scale. Next week we'll be orchestrating ... What was the military term for a group of fleets again? Cohorts? Armada? Legions?

After that we can segment then into civilizations! The [?] processing unit is the limit!

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