ffffffff.... damnit I love python but why is it so difficult like this. JIT would have been so perfect so the language, increasingly overtime with AI code coming through I am not sure not focusing on making the performance better is going to be better for longer term. Even though a lot of the other operations done in python are done faster in libraries I would still like faster startup times, or faster loops.

This seems to be all about drift from the main implementation of Cpython.

If JIT is different enough in maintenance, security best practices, and consumer use, we don’t have two compilers, we have two different languages.

And that’s the crux of it.

Python needs less features, not more.

What a shame. The alternative is CinderX? It's slower unless you stick to "Static Python" which is not most python code in the wild.

Hope the copy-and-patch work gets a proper write-up before it’s removed... The technique is interesting well beyond CPython.

I hope it does not lead to performance issues later. Python is already famous for being slower than compiled languages.

This is why we cannot have nice things.

Why had Python to succeed to Lisp in the AI wave? (rhetoric question)

Since PyPy and GraalPy will never get the love they deserve, I guess there is hope that Julia, Mojo, and the whole Rewrite in Go/Rust keep pushing along then.

Python is no doubt a successful language. But, boy - this level of bureaucracy is annoying to no ends. Do people feel eager to propose a PEP? There are so many more enjoyable things to do in one's short life ...

I don't know why they don't just adopt Pypy as a faster Python implementation. Just let CPython develop slowly as the reference and give support to Pypy. It is already much faster than CPython.

The Rust based Python3 port can keep it and it can still be far more secure than CPython. Not everything it's JIT'ted on RustPython, it's ondemand per function, you have to enable it explicitly.