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Posted by mhb 8 hours ago

Formlabs Studio 1 $699 Resin Printer(formlabs.com)
153 points | 100 commentspage 2
user- 8 hours ago|
How did the preorder form for this product endup #2 here on HN in 10 minutes with no comments?

Theres no new blog or video or news, preorders opened 2 weeks ago

fishgoesblub 7 hours ago||
If I had to guess, the latest Applied Science video on YouTube which somewhat showcased it.
jordanb 3 hours ago||
I felt like the applied science video was an ad. He said they sent him the printer to do the project so he at least got the printer free. I didn't hear any other disclosures but the entire back half of the video was talking about the printer
dang 3 hours ago|||
The upvotes look genuine to me. I guess people are just excited?
mitxela 7 hours ago||
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dang 3 hours ago|||
You broke the site guidelines with this comment.

"Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, bots, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

The odds that a Hacker News user who has been here literally 19 years and submitted over 4,000 links is some sort of marketing shill seem rather negligible. You could have figured that out yourself based just on the public data.

mhb 7 hours ago|||
I'm not a marketing agency. I just saw it on Applied Science and was impressed that mainstream resin printers were available for that price.

3D-printed, alcohol-powered, Einstein-Szilard absorption refrigerator https://youtu.be/doZ5e4YVdEs?si=WNiw0_R7efE6M_jM

gavmor 7 hours ago||
Seems to be sharper, faster, and larger in volume than their previous offerings—and for < half the price, too!

Pretty cool.

syntaxing 8 hours ago||
Wow this price is interesting. I guess the Chinese competition is really driving prices down. I do miss the first generation (I think second was too) where they were "true" SLA but they got sued into oblivion by 3D Systems.
mhb 7 hours ago|
> "true" SLA

What is that? Why is it better?

Brian_K_White 7 hours ago||
Stereo lithography using lasers, vs "sla" now has nothing stereo about it nor lasers, just an lcd screen that exposes a 2d slice.

Why it's better is a little complicated and maybe not all one-way.

Definitely there are a lot of difficulties inherent in the way the lcd type has to move the part for every layer and fight a lot of suction every time, damaging a film that needs to stay optically perfect, frothing up the resin with bubbles yet another source of optical defects.

Maybe the laser machines have their own problems but not having to move the part (or move it much less and in a different less violent way) and not having to physically abuse an optical part has to make some difference.

mkw5053 8 hours ago||
Honest question, what would I do if this is my first 3D printer and I don't have the ability to wash and cure? Or do I and I just don't know it, ha
shitloadofbooks 7 hours ago||
Please, please do NOT buy a resin printer as your first printer; IF you want to print intricate details (where resin excels) at least start with an FDM printer anda 0.2mm nozzle. Lots of information can be found here at r/fdmminiatures.

Resin is extremely toxic and requires a dedicated area and handling and care.

doug_life 7 hours ago|||
You can wash manually with some isopropyl alcohol in a wash basin and then cure in the sun. It will be a pain to do, and somewhat inconsistent, but its possible. You can also get a cheaper wash and cure station for other 3D printers that would likely work well enough with some tuning.
twelfthnight 7 hours ago|||
My first printer was resin without a dedicated wash/cure set up and it was difficult enough that I sold the printer and got an FDM. Currently I'm using an Snapmaker U1 and it's really awesome and much easier. It also prints in multicolor seamlessly.

That said, if you do spend the extra for this along with the wash/cure and the voc extractor, the demos are really impressive. It seems like this printer is blazing fast, for single color prints it will print basically anything at better resolution than an FDM in <2 hours, whereas FDM could take anywhere from 4-12+ for a similar part with bigger layer lines.

virtualritz 7 hours ago|||
You can wash the print in an ultrasonic bath [1] in isopropyl alcohol (IPA).

Then cure using a UV LED strip (5m w USB plug ~2 EUR) inside an empty can (another 2-5 EUR) and a solar-powered rotating base [2].

The light from the LEDs is cures as well as powers the base. All four will set you back less than 50 EUR.

[1] https://aliexpress.com/item/1005010131053964.html [2] https://aliexpress.com/item/1005012796313088.html

syntaxing 7 hours ago|||
Ive been 3D printing for over a decade, SLA printers are just not worth it IMO. There useful for certain applications, especially industry but for home hobbyist, FDM + 0.2mm nozzle would go further as a first 3D printer
doug_life 7 hours ago|||
Agreed, unless you need to print intricate 3D figurines or high resolution engineering widgets, get a FDM printer and avoid the mess of SLA.
fhn 7 hours ago|||
$699 is an incredible price
pedalpete 7 hours ago|||
We don't have a wash here at our office, we just use a small container with IPA.

We have a UV cure cube, but often I just cure under a $20 amazon desktop UV light.

pclark 7 hours ago|||
Honestly a Bambu printer is so insanely easy to use you'd be making printing ^25 harder with this.
mhb 7 hours ago|||
For another $250, you can get another box that washes and cures.
iLoveOncall 7 hours ago||
Just don't. Resin printers are a pain. Get an FDM (filament) printer first.
amelius 7 hours ago||
Does it produce toxic fumes?
ehnto 5 hours ago|
In general yes, resin and FDM printers both produce toxic VOCs.

But FormLabs for this printer and resin have focused on safetey and acquired a certification on their Alpha resins which show low VOCs that should be safe to print in an indoor room with low ventilation.

I still wouldn't, I would add ventilation and wear PPE, it's still going to be releasing some VOCs even if it comes under a tolerable limit. But I do appreciate what seems to be the first ever initiative in 3D printing to address the elephant in the room of VOCs directly at the material level.

passive 7 hours ago||
As someone who got into FDM printing about a year ago, and still finds it very exciting, this is a really compelling resin printer. It's priced very well for the capabilities, especially in terms of providing everything a beginner might need to be comfortable with resin printing.

That said, I just noticed Costco online has some FDM stuff, which I think is a pretty exciting development, so if I have any money to spend on 3d printing stuff in the near future, I'll probably spend it there. :)

fancyfredbot 7 hours ago||
Why is it showing me $749 excluding tax? Did the price increase by $50 since this was posted?
phoghed 4 hours ago|
John Formlab here, I check the referrer and charge extra to people coming from wealthy people websites
singularity2001 7 hours ago||
I have the sensational $200 bamboo lab printer what would the $700 thing give me more?
twelfthnight 7 hours ago||
Wrote this elsewhere, but this printer prints a full volume in 2 hours. In many scenarios it's 10x faster than FDM with better resolution and compatibility with advanced materials, like food grade / skin contact, ultra strength and rubber-like consistency.

You actually would probably want the wash/cure and VOC extractor upgrades so it's more like 1200$ before it's useful, but if you have the clean room space and ability to handle the toxic resin, functionally resin printing is typically better than fdm for single color prints.

hingler36 7 hours ago|||
From the hobbyist perspective, the main thing this gets you is much more precise and detailed prints, so they're very popular in the model making community.

From a professional perspective, this gives you access to a bunch of different materials that open up all kinds of options for prototyping.

SchemaLoad 7 hours ago||
The slight increase in fine detail is just not worth the toxicity imo. Put a 0.2mm nozzle on your FDM printer and you'll get good enough quality. Leave resin to businesses that can set up a proper warehouse with fume extraction and PPE.

You can even prototype your designs at home with FDM and send the final file to a company to do the resin prints.

hingler36 7 hours ago||
I agree that for most people it's not worth it, but for people who need it it's absolutely necessary. The biggest hurdle is making sure new hobbyists don't just assume it's like FDM with minimal post-processing.
Balvarez 7 hours ago||
Amazing detail, a resin allergy, and cancer
echelon 7 hours ago||
> a resin allergy

How many months before it develops, on average?

paaloeye 7 hours ago||
Does it come with MCP integration for Claude/Antigravity CLI?
system2 5 hours ago|
7.9 x 4.9 x 9.3 in build volume is small. Since it is resin, does it really make a difference to make the build area bigger without upgrading the hardware, just by increasing the frame size?