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Posted by babelfish 6 hours ago

StackOverflow now gets fewer than 1000 questions a month(data.stackexchange.com)
245 points | 222 commentspage 2
nine_k 47 minutes ago|
SO was invented as a Q&A site, where human experts might answer specific technical questions, in a precise, preferably provable way. This is what machines now do well enough.

But there's a need to talk to human experts, learn their opinions, personal experience, non-obvious bits. E.g. I enjoyed asking certain questions at Software Engineering and Emacs SE sites. Sometimes I just ended up talking with a maintainer of a specific package I had questions about. This is something Claude and ChatGPT cannot easily replace, and maybe something that may keep certain SO communities alive. (Unless Reddit eats the remnants of their lunch.)

abetusk 21 minutes ago||
Note that I recently tried to sign up so that I could answer/update some questions that I have expertise in and was refused because my email address wasn't recognized.
armchairhacker 5 hours ago||
SO has been useless for years now, but the other Stack Exchanges can be interesting, they deserve more spotlight.
kulahan 4 hours ago|
I really do love their other communities so much more. Lots of super interesting content - it feels like a new digg or something. I go to one of the other stacks and look at the most popular non-tech stack posts once or twice a week purely for entertainment. The breakdowns on obscure but interesting topics can get really fun to read!
EvanAnderson 4 hours ago||
On the more-and-more rare occasion that I end up on Stack Overflow as a result of a search I find myself losing excessive time to following the random links to other communities. The other communities really are good stuff.
werdnapk 5 hours ago||
And how much was AI trained on their data? That's the sad part. Nobody asking new questions, so not much more for AI to train from.
bentcorner 56 minutes ago||
Kind of makes me wonder how knowledge transfer is going to work in the future.

How many times have you found a random forum post solving your problem? How many countless people has that post likely helped?

Now every single person facing the same problem will regenerate from scratch the entire thought process and result. What a waste.

There needs to be some way to close the feedback loop from the work that LLMs do.

sureMan6 5 hours ago|||
It's training on every single codebase in the world instead now

You prompt it to fix the mistakes it made and that goes into the new training data

gwerbin 4 hours ago|||
More importantly, the newer generation of models don't even need Stackoverflow. With tool calling they can pull up as much documentation and source code as you could possibly want, and in the past year they've become alarmingly good at piecing those things together to solve problems.

It's less efficient than being able to point to a canonical answer on a widely respected forum, yes. And it sucks immensely to have to rely on these horrible AI companies to replace the real human interactions that getting work done used to require, yes. But realistically, we are not looking at some kind of model collapse anytime soon due to lack of SO threads.

Losing Reddit and blogs and other forums is going to be a bigger problem. In two years from now, if I ask GPT-8 or whatever to build me a Web server, what web framework is it going to use? How will it and/or I know which one is a good choice? if the web becomes a ghost town and nobody is talking about anything anymore, there's no form thread it can uncover and say "that's the one everyone uses". Losing the library of technical Q&A is nothing close to the catastrophe of losing actual conversations between humans.

CamperBob2 2 hours ago||
In two years from now, if I ask GPT-8 or whatever to build me a Web server, what web framework is it going to use?

My guess is, you won't care.

How will it and/or I know which one is a good choice?

My guess is, it will make a good choice.

mburns 5 hours ago|||
FWIW, StackOverflow posts are licensed under Creative Commons BY-SA v4.0, same as Wikipedia.
philsquared_ 5 hours ago||
With or without training they would have gotten eaten.
poszlem 5 hours ago|||
There is a difference between dying tomorrow and dying in 5 years.
ahartmetz 5 hours ago|||
Why?
hatthew 4 hours ago|||
The golden age of SO was when all the important questions that have accumulated over decades were getting asked and answered. SO stabilized once that backlog got finished, and then started dying once people moved to github issues for project-specific questions. Chatgpt just replaced the last remaining type of questions ("plz do my work for me"), which arguably shouldn't have been getting asked in the first place.
SyneRyder 4 hours ago|||
The peak number of questions was in 2013, and they had roughly zero growth between 2013 & 2016. They were in decline long before LLMs were on the scene.
darksim905 1 hour ago||
Fewer than 1,000? To be honest, even before AI, I'm surprised it ever got more than 50 or a 100 in some StackExchanges. It was on borrowed time especially after reading a lot about the moderator drama/issues.
eluru 4 hours ago||
as a student i remmeber ikept getting my questions removed even after trying to follow every rule. this one time i decided i will use their top questions as a template just to test it, so i did i made sure it was a new question, following each rule

It was also deleted, die already stack overflow

kelseydh 53 minutes ago||
StackOverflow jobs was great when it existed, found great opportunities through there. So dumb they killed it especially with LLM's eating their core business.
lacoolj 1 hour ago||
This might be the saddest, non-family related thing ive seen in years.

I love you stack exchange and all related sites.

All yall need to keep learning

ChicagoDave 4 hours ago|
If there is any proof that no one will be writing code, this is it.

I encourage all young developers to focus on information architecture, application architecture, pure logic, domain-driven design, and harness engineering.

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