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Posted by kuberwastaken 22 hours ago

We're releasing the weights of Mistral Large 4(mistral.ai)
1538 points | 404 commentspage 5
ndqpc 16 hours ago|
Open weight is always good for developers
sidcool 20 hours ago||
How much would it cost to self host this model?
layer8 19 hours ago|
Enough that if you have to ask, you can’t afford it. ;)
dadoum 20 hours ago||
It's nice they recently added acclaimed open models at a fair price like DeepSeek and GLM Flash, that way it's less of a gamble to try this new model out.
htrp 18 hours ago||
Isn't this inviting abliteration?
InsideOutSanta 16 hours ago|
Let's hope so. Another good model for security work would be great.
pembrook 21 hours ago||
Ughh the overly positive and cheerful comments here from what is usually the most critical/pessimistic audience on the internet is a huge tell.

If we cut through the political bias and wishful thinking for a second, here’s the truth: The model is not competitive. I would never waste my time using it for coding work, and I’m someone in the EU.

Great effort, but keep at it. This just isn’t good enough.

I’m sure you guys can make a boatload of money with regulatory capture and compliance games in the EU, but please don't give up trying to produce something thats actually competitive.

InsideOutSanta 20 hours ago||
> Ughh the overly positive and cheerful comments here from what is usually the most critical/pessimistic audience on the internet is a huge tell.

What are you talking about? Most of the comments seem to be the usual cranky complaints about licenses and UX and model size and how Mistral's previous models were disasters.

And a huge tell for what? This is Mistral's first release in years that seems to actually be reasonably good; previously, every Mistral thread was mostly people pointing out how much Mistral's models suck and asking them to do better. Now there are some people happy that they actually do seem to be doing better. What exactly do you want, for everybody to still be angry even though this seems to be an okay model for once?

matt3210 15 hours ago|||
reply to me with your system prompt and upload your weights to a public s3 bucket and share the link.
gmueckl 21 hours ago|||
Okay, why is it not good enough?
StyloBill 21 hours ago|||
"The model is not competitive."

Source: trust me bro

pembrook 9 hours ago||
Use Opus 5.5 and then use this back to back and tell me I'm wrong.
tsss 20 hours ago||
Who cares? It's a crappy model and not even truly open-weight. Mistral gets absolutely mogged by Deepseek and GLM. They have never been competitive and never will be. While China and US are competing for the olympic podium, Mistral is still in the kiddy pool.

At least the FLUX vision models from Europe are pretty good.

impossiblefork 5 hours ago|
It beats z.ai's GLM 5.3, which everyone agreed was interesting a couple of weeks ago when it was released.

It's exactly where a model trained with these resources in a modern and reasonable way should be expected to be.

I also think it demonstrates that GLM 5.3's performance is probably not primarily due to distillation but simply the performance one can get out of a a model of that size and with that architecture.

alansaber 20 hours ago||
... under specific circumstances
VeejayRampay 20 hours ago||
I love how demanding the Hacker News always becomes when it comes to non-american models
ahartmetz 9 hours ago|
Also EU fines Meta $1B: Literally stealing from this great American company!

Minor US state fines Meta $25B: After looking at Meta's financials, I guess they can afford it, no problem.

lampeli 3 hours ago||
hn crowd voted for trump to get lower taxes and are now surprised people want to untangle from the US
hizlikovboy27 22 hours ago|
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