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Posted by ibobev 21 hours ago

LLM Voice(martinfowler.com)
503 points | 263 commentspage 5
nico 17 hours ago|
> There are tools out there that claim to be able to tell the difference between LLM-written prose and the old-fashioned biological product. I'm wary of them, partly due skeptism about their accuracy, but also because it rather misses the point

HN uses automatic classifiers. They seem pretty effective. At the same time, I think it's a loosing battle. I'd rather HN either flag for others to ignore/filter/review if they want to, and/or allow people to self-report (ala TikTok)

Eg. I wouldn't mind if a comment on HN was like:

Hey everyone, I coded this little thing:

<ai-generated> some code </ai-generated>

Then users can choose if they want to see posts with AI-generated stuff or not, or something else...

Of course there are always going to be some people trying to game the system. But what are we optimizing for? (a lot of times the 95% unnecessarily suffers because of the mitigation efforts to prevent the other 5% from abuse)

esafak 19 hours ago||
One reason it grates is that it is our brain's way of telling us that there is nothing to be gained from engaging the material; it is trite.
fnoef 20 hours ago||
i noticed something similar yet different. because, sadly, most of what i read today is llm output (the chain of thoughts, or the summary at the end of a big chunk or work), i tend to "adopt" this style in my writing, hence, writing as an llm without using one. humans are an amazing creatures at copying stuff and adapting to our environment
rietta 19 hours ago|
I have wondered about this as well. To what extent am I influenced by the LLM output. It is a load bearing question for sure. ;-p
visarga 18 hours ago|||
A billion humans use AI daily, they write about 0.5T tok and read about 2T tok (estimated). In a week they amount to more than the whole training set of GPT-4. Human language is being shaped back by AI language.
krupan 9 hours ago|||
You hit the nail on the head
cheapcheerful 5 hours ago||
I'm big into AI but hate watching a youtuber when I suddenly realise their script is pure AI garbage, that they didn't even edit out the 'quietly's or the the kickers.THE KICKER is forever ruined. I hate it. The kicker can quietly get bent.
rexpop 18 hours ago||
> 3: Michael Nygard commented: “There you really aren't trying to communicate thoughts from one person to other people. You're communicating with a process rather than a human. A human may open the envelope but that person is acting as a component in a cybernetic organism.”

But of course: manufactuting itself creates " productive mechanism whose parts are human beings, as Adam Ferguson describes the industrial workshop: "an engine, the parts of which are men".

cpeterso 17 hours ago||
What tools or AGENTS.md prompts do you find effective for humanizing LLM output? Default GPT output is acceptable, but Claude is unbearable.

The “Simplified Technical English” fad was pretty effective, but now I just specify:

  - Use short sentences and active voice.
  - NEVER use the phrases "load-bearing", "seam", "unlock", "real", or “learnings”.
t_mahmood 17 hours ago||
I never use LLM to write anything, but unfortunately now whenever I am writing something, I am worried, am I sounding like an LLM? Using certain words, makes me worry, it will make my writing like an LLM, so I have started to avoid some words in my writing.

I really don't like this timeline ... sigh

hardbass 5 hours ago|
Don't worry about those idiots, its a great filter in fact to get rid of paranoid "there is ai under my bed" types.
bronny1989 9 hours ago|
most of the comments on this side are boring also
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