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Posted by j4mie 14 hours ago

Patrick Stewart has died(www.nytimes.com)
https://archive.ph/y4Egm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Stewart

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baron3dl 14 hours ago|
I'm so saddened by this news, I still watch TNG regularly. Separately, I'm also kind of blown away that Captain Kirk outlived Captain Picard.
pimlottc 14 hours ago||
Same, although there is only 9 years between them despite the 20+ years between their respective series.

Shatner is doing remarkably well for 95 years of age, I saw him performing with a band at a rock show just this summer!

WalterBright 13 hours ago|||
I suspect the key thing about Shatner's longevity is his obvious enjoyment of life. For example, he's currently recording a bunch of heavy metal albums. Of course he is not a good singer, but he couldn't care less, and has a great time doing it. He's always up for doing fun things, like getting blasted into space on a rocket.
LogicFailsMe 13 hours ago|||
Good genes and he's always been a swimmer. He also apparently didn't carry any copies of the apoe4 gene.
rootbear 12 hours ago||
My father and grandmother, who both lived past 90, had Alzheimer's, which is a concern for me, but I'm encouraged by the fact that I do not carry the apoe4 gene. I do need to eat better and get more exercise.
IshKebab 13 hours ago||||
And Patrick Steward didn't enjoy life?

It's really enticing to think that there's some nice controllable reason why some people live longer (assuming you don't smoke, do drugs to excess, etc.) but really it's mostly genetics and chance.

WalterBright 13 hours ago|||
I know nothing about Stewart's personal life.

I visited a cardiologist today, who has seen thousands of patients. He remarked that two big factors in staving off heart disease are staying slim and long term aerobic exercise.

Those two factors are under one's control.

(Nobody said it was easy, though.)

abootstrapper 12 hours ago|||
It gives subtle tones of blaming the sick and deceased for their predicament. People get sick all the time from no fault of their own and death comes for us all. But of course diet and exercise are good for your health.
WalterBright 9 hours ago||
Many diseases randomly affect people. Many other diseases are the result of lifestyle choices.

For example, I seriously doubt that lung cancer causes smoking.

tarsierscripter 10 hours ago|||
Sure, though it’s quite hard to stay active after one has had heart disease.

Many of the studies that associate lifestyles with health outcomes have this issue with the causative arrow: disease tends not to enable activity.

andsoitis 13 hours ago|||
And healthy eating, sleep, exercise, being sociable.

These seem within one’s agency.

TheFuzzball 13 hours ago||
You're kidding right? Shatner's had a beer belly for the last 40 years and Patrick Stewart has always been quite thin. It's just luck and genetics.
TeamGTN 12 hours ago||
Shatner had the gut, but did you see him use an elevator to get on Jeff's rocket? He climbed the stairs, 7 flights, roughly 70 feet above ground, at 90+ and clinically obese. Was he gasping when he got to the top? Yes. Did he do it? Yes! Did he keep up with the kids half his age? Yes!! Did he complain? No! Did they use a (danny) crane to hoist him up there? No! Could Patrick have done that? I doubt it after watching his performance in Picard. He looked and acted feeble in that. Patrick was thin, but that doesn't mean fit. Shatner was fat, but strong.
eszed 7 hours ago|||
I only watched the first season of Picard (and, sadly, didn't like it much), but I got the impression that Stewart was acting feeble. I saw him on TV a few times (Graham Norton, the Oscars, maybe something else) around that time, and he looked and moved way better than he did in the show.
olyjohn 6 hours ago||
Season 3 was way better.
WalterBright 12 hours ago|||
I watched "Boston Legal" because of him. He clearly was enjoying himself, including making snide remarks about himself and making references to Star Trek. I wish him many more happy years.
phainopepla2 13 hours ago||||
The causative arrow could point in the other direction, here. Or both directions at once
freediver 13 hours ago|||
> For example, he's currently recording a bunch of heavy metal albums.

Oh, any links?

modeless 13 hours ago|||
Based on this video I would believe you if you told me he was 69. This is unbelievable for 95. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaButvSxPWQ
soneil 9 hours ago||||
Not Shatner, but I need to drop that Patrick did a backing track on Brent Spiner's album. It has to be in here somewhere, and this seems as good a place as any.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFwiLa3TYwg&list=PL1T3N4t2kU...

> Sunspots: LeVar Burton, Michael Dorn, Jonathan Frakes, Patrick Stewart.

uNF!

WalterBright 12 hours ago|||
I've got a copy of his first album, The Transformed Man, which is quite entertaining to listen to. I have heard him do a cover of Black Sabbath's "Iron Man".

"Seeking Major Tom" might be of interest to you.

Google sez:

William Shatner’s heavy metal album, titled What the F Is Heavy Metal?, does not have an exact release date yet, though it is tentatively scheduled for winter 2026 or 2027 via Cleopatra Records.

Album Details

• Title: What the F Is Heavy Metal? • Band Name: The *uckers • Expected Release: Winter 2026 / 2027 • Label: Cleopatra Records • Format & Content: Features a mix of original tracks and heavy metal/hard rock covers (including Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Metallica, and Ozzy Osbourne). • Notable Collaborators: Rob Halford, Tony Iommi, Zakk Wylde, Brian May, and Dave Lombardo, among dozens of other rock and metal musicians. • Live Debut: Shatner and his band debuted songs from the project live at Riot Fest in Chicago in September 2026. • William Shatner on Instagram Ladies, gentlemen, SWs fans… I have explored space. I have explored time. Now… I explore distortion. Yes. You read that correctl... • USA Today William Shatner debuts heavy metal band at age 95 At 95, William Shatner is starting a heavy metal band Greta Cross USA TODAY Sept. 17, 2026Updated Sept. 18, 2026, 9:14 a.m. ET Wil...

RickJWagner 13 hours ago|||
At this point, it is a marathon between Bill Shatner and Keith Richards.

We may not live long enough to know who wins.

hanziguru 13 hours ago||
so sad. I enjoyed so many hours watching TNG and the newer movies.
softwaredoug 13 hours ago||
In the early 90s, I didn't get along with my Dad. I was a nerdy kid that didn't seem to fit in.

Star Trek TNG + Captain Picard acted as a male role model, a different moral philosophy, and a celebration of nerdy people as competent and important in the world

kilroy123 9 hours ago|
Same here.
thesuitonym 13 hours ago||
If you haven't read his memoir you definitely should, it's a well written piece where he reflects on his life, what he did wrong, what he did right, and the joy and pain that followed him through it all. He was a flawed man, but he was a good man. He will be deeply missed.

Edit: Oh man, I can't believe I'm crying at work over an actor.

kayodelycaon 13 hours ago||
I highly recommend the audio book, he reads it himself.
msabalau 12 hours ago|||
The memoir is fascinating, the audiobook is enthralling.

Of course, he could probably make reading the tax code sound pretty interesting.

aduwah 12 hours ago|||
Thanks for the tip!
davesque 11 hours ago||
I did too! I don't think I've cried over a Hollywood death until now. Maybe Robin Williams but can't remember.
ionwake 13 hours ago||
I went to a small theater production he was in with my gf. I hadnt realised all the seats would be taken and for some reason I was the only person standing with my girlfriend. We stood at teh back in the dark but I couldnt help but feel he was looking straight at me and my girlfriend for the duration of the play while he was onstage.

It might of been Im not sure, not the case? But perhaps against a white wall it was clear we were the only ones standing for the performance and in turn it felt he was performing for us. It just felt like that.

I ofcourse have no idea if he was just looking in our general direction but it weirdly felt like it and I thought it was kind.

Ive never had such a "he was doing it for us" self centered view of any other performance Ive ever been to, but I always remembered this, and like to believe it was true.

The play itself was about him being an old dying forgetful man. It was so convincing I somehow left thinking that surely he was but ofcourse it was just excellent acting.

eszed 7 hours ago|
Not to burst your bubble, but the usual eye-line is the back wall of the theatre - or higher, if you're playing a auditorium with a balcony. It's to make sure everyone can see your face. I can promise that he saw you, though, and would have noticed, and been sad, if you'd left. Keeping an audience engaged is the whole deal, and if standing-room patrons stick around you know you're getting it done.
Sargos 13 hours ago||
As someone who grew up without a father, Patrick Stewart as Picard served as my father figure and shapes my personality and standards. it's hard to live up to those high bars of integrity, honor, and principles communication but I've found that just trying leads to positive outcomes. I owe a lot to this great man and will miss him dearly.
gyulai 3 hours ago||
It's ironic how many people here mention him as a substitute father figure, seeing as it's the kind of father-son pair that cannot be. Never being a father is one of Picard's life regrets, and Stewart himself expressed in an interview he carries "significant grief" because his relationship with his children is "practically non-existent".
alittlebee 11 hours ago||
Thats a lovely anecdote, thank you for sharing it. Wishing you a good life.
fadesibert 6 hours ago||
Patrick Stewart was a legendary actor, and a pleasure to watch both within and without the Star Trek franchise (Hamlet, Macbeth, the Hollow Crown).

The NY times editorial board seems to have become even more performatively egalitarian. Stewart (like Ian McKellen) was (IMNSHO quite rightly) recognized with a knighthood for his services to drama. They call him "Mr Stewart" - technically there is no such person.

The correct way to refer to him is Sir Patrick Stewart, or Sir Patrick thereafter. Ditto McKellen.

And yes, the US doesn't issue its own knighthoods, peerages &c - but the US constitution is fairly clear on what is disallowed - but that doesn't affect a non-US Citizen

The foreign emoluments clause [0] applies to "holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them" and the section also prevents the US from creating any title of Nobility, but editorial courtesy usually grants foreigners their titles [1]

It's perfectly correct to ignore honorary knighthoods - like that conferred on Bill Gates. It's discourteous to ignore them for those rightly conferred, and inconsistent. [2]

[0] https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S9-C8-1/...

[1] https://archive.nytimes.com/afterdeadline.blogs.nytimes.com/...

[2] https://www.nytimes.com/1929/10/27/archives/the-unshackling-...

genldd 14 hours ago||
Oh man, Patrick Stewart is a base rock part of my personality. Star Trek The Next Generation was formative for me ages 7-12. Sad to see him go.
arjie 13 hours ago||
He was technically my landlord in London, haha. Never met him, though. Only found out because the council sent me mail addressed to him regarding the property. From the visible window on the letter, I was able to find that it was to pay for extra sound insulation on the apartment I was residing in because the council was building some structure nearby.

Really enjoyed his stuff. Always enjoyed that he could do both the grand and the silly with equal aplomb.

radicalbyte 12 hours ago||
I'm surprised that we don't have the black banner. Sir Patrick Stewart played a formative part in the live of many of us in the industry.
frogcoder 7 hours ago||
I get that the black banner is often for paying tribute to people who contribute significantly to science and technologies. But I feel he touched so many scientists and engineers that he deserve a black banner here. I am sad.
calf 12 hours ago||
Mods obviously Star Wars people
rbanffy 9 hours ago||
Star Wars is fine, but us Trekkies prefer science fiction.
_fw 13 hours ago|
The tribute that springs to mind best first is Pogo’s Data and Picard: a beautiful track made from Stewart performing as Picard.

Now cheer up me lads, t’is better to have loved and lost, than never have loved at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZn6c4CeJCc [The one on Pogo’s channel doesn’t include clips of Stewart, just his voice. This is a reupload of the original]

SugarReflex 9 hours ago|
Great mention. That song has seriously cheered me up many times.
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