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Posted by Tiberium 14 hours ago

Binance-hacker-1029 – $5.6B stolen from Binance(arkm.com)
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Yajirobe 14 hours ago|
How do you move $5B dollars just like that wow
imron 12 hours ago||
Blockchain!
smoovb 9 hours ago||
At a steep discount.
yakkomajuri 11 hours ago||
I think we can probably declare crypto as failed now.

Note that I was one of the folks early on that bought into the idea (but not as much of the coins sadly) and I still think the Bitcoin white paper is a beautiful intellectual exploration (as is the concept of blockchains).

But the centralized entry and exit points in practice mean all the theoretical benefits aren't really in play.

paxy 10 hours ago||
If the use case is tax avoidance, bribes, theft, scams, money laundering, funding terrorism, evading sanctions, ransomware payments, extortion, illegal purchases then crypto is immensely successful.
heed 8 hours ago|||
these use cases exist with all forms of cash too
someguyornotidk 6 hours ago|||
True. With the proliferation of digital payment systems, I'd argue that a significant portion of cash transactions are illegal. That portion will only grow in time as people get used to the convenience of these systems.

If governments ban crypto then they will without fail ban cash as well.

Edit: For additional context, I live in a country where fees and transactions related to government and regulated services (including telecom) are required by law to use our national payment system exclusively, and it is hell for people who fall through the cracks (e.g. problems national ID that blocks payment systems). I've seen first-hand on multiple occasions people standing outside government buildings begging others to pay their fees in exchange for cash so that they can get unblocked from the payment system.

Whether through malice or incompetence, human institutions can never and will never be perfect. Cash and cash-like systems (inc. crypto) must remain or a lot of innocent people will get hurt, even if it enables criminals.

unethical_ban 4 hours ago||
I do not excel at this, but that's why it's important to continue normalizing activities that protect our freedoms, even if they seem inconvenient on their face. Shops should accept cash, people should use cash, people should expect and demand privacy. Laws and judicial interpretations are often based on the public's expectation of certain services and rights.
tyre 7 hours ago||||
Sure, but accounting existed before Excel. That doesn't mean excel didn't change things tremendously.
conception 8 hours ago|||
Whataboutism like this always misses the scale of it. Imagine Breaking Bad but with Crypto - suddenly all of Walt's cash logistics problems go away because doing crime in cash is not the same as crypto - the scale and ease are very different.
latchkey 9 hours ago|||
not to be whatabout... but... anything of value is used for all that too, in much larger amounts.

it is wild to me that people expect that crypto is supposed to solve a problem that is as old as currency.

pigeons 7 hours ago||
It does solve that problem pretty well, just nothing else positive.
bottlepalm 9 hours ago|||
Hacker News has always been salty about being against crypto all the way up. And it's overall still very up. You wishing it failed, doesn't make it fail.
tim-projects 7 hours ago||
Bitcoin was meant to be cash and an antidote to crony finance. Instead, it became yet another mechanism for the financial world to abuse. I'd say thats a pretty heavy failure by any measure.

For me bitcoin opened up the idea that we could maybe do money better. That idea still lives, but not in practice. Yet.

tantalor 11 hours ago|||
Failed in 2021 with the height of memecoin/NFT frenzy.
tomashertus 9 hours ago||
NFT era was the peak of stupidity. I lost a lot of respect for many “smart” people during that time.
talon8635 7 hours ago|||
The whole western world was insane at that time, and NFTs were only a minor side plot

That said, it’s got to be one of the funniest moments in modern history.

Scrapemist 8 hours ago||||
Yeah it was mind boggling
adi_kurian 7 hours ago|||
Was in an extreme depressive episode at the time, with a lot of NFT/web3 clients. Rather than clocking it as the collective hallucination it was, I instead became self-critical, oh how I had finally become old, and I will never ever understand what the kids are talking about anymore.

Glad it turned out to be Michelin-starred bollocks.

Scott_Sanderson 8 hours ago|||
Not in my eyes; I love crypto self custody
jawiggins 9 hours ago|||
It's significantly less useful in first world countries that have developed and reliable financial systems. However all of the problems crypto has can often still be more reliable than the financial systems available to many humans.
greyface- 8 hours ago|||
https://bitcoindeaths.com/
smoovb 9 hours ago|||
Agree, citizens in countries with rocketing inflation should be just forced to deal with it.
yieldcrv 8 hours ago||
best bug bounty on the market, working perfectly for the current custodians
lz400 3 hours ago||
Can we close the crypto experiment now? it's already proven useless, full of the worst people in the world, only used by criminals and politicians and it has already fulfilled its purpose: to justify the complications of the traditional financial system as necessary
febusravenga 3 hours ago|
Worst people of the world are happy with it, why should they abandon such great tool to do what they want to do?
usefulcat 11 hours ago||
A long time ago (maybe 2008-ish?) I saw a video called “Money is Debt”. Now I won’t claim that it’s 100% right about everything, but as I recall it was right about a lot of things, and what it did for me is to fundamentally change and greatly expand my understanding of banks and the financial system.
leecommamichael 8 hours ago||
How could we distinguish between a hack and a purchase covered up as a hack?
wewewedxfgdf 14 hours ago||
It's essentially impossible not to be hacked isn't it?

When so much money is at stake (almost) everyone will have a price including insiders.

masfuerte 14 hours ago||
If you're concerned you can literally print your crypto keys onto a piece of paper. Maybe encrypted with a passphrase. It might get stolen or lost but it's not getting hacked.

P.S. If you're really paranoid don't use a network-connected printer.

kart23 13 hours ago|||
how are you gonna use your paper keys when you want to spend some of your bitcoin? the private key has to touch a computer at some point.
bibabaloo 7 hours ago|||
you'd typically sign on an offline, airgapped computer
masfuerte 10 hours ago|||
You could treat them like bearer bonds. Split your holdings over multiple (like tens) of addresses. Sell individual addresses for cash. You'd need to do this via a trusted intermediary who could accept the cash and verify the address before making the exchange.

And yes, this is somewhat absurd. But so are online transactions that can be hacked with no backsies.

janalsncm 13 hours ago||||
Security through decentralization, if there is such a term.
wewewedxfgdf 11 hours ago|||
I'm not concerned because I have zero crypto because I would hate to be worried about being hacked to have it stolen.
add-sub-mul-div 13 hours ago||
I keep my money with traditional boring financial institutions instead of tech startup clowns so it's been very easy not to get hacked.
hangrybear666 13 hours ago||
Yeah apparently it's news in 2026 that banks can actually keep their assets secure in comparison to the web3 clown fiesta. Of course banks do get compromised but not anywhere close to this degree.
sire-vc 7 minutes ago||
Bits about money explains why: the (normal) financial system is slow for a reason: if a bank suddenly tries to transfer 5.6B all other banks will call their contact for confirmation and then take 2 business days to process the transaction, more or less.

Stealing anything is easy, escaping and converting to cash is the hard bit, and crypto makes it easy to vanish with your money in literal seconds.

Jupe 14 hours ago||
Crypto is a real-life honey pot for cryminals.
acombandrew 14 hours ago|
can it still be called a honeypot if they get real $?
thehappypm 13 hours ago|||
Honey can be exchanged for goods and services
manquer 13 hours ago|||
Perhaps OP means to say it is a honeypot criminals create for us ...
jwpapi 13 hours ago||
I don’t think stolen crypto should be frozen. How is that different to banks? Why do I need crypto now ?
raaedk 13 hours ago||
Only the tokens whose smart contract has a freeze/blacklist function can be frozen, in this case that would be the stablecoins USDT and USDC.
albatross79 11 hours ago||
They're just learning the same lessons the rest of the world learned already. Banking and it's attendant regulations and restrictions were put in place for good reasons and everything has a trade off. Being a libertarian is like being a baby.
theybash 8 hours ago||
Cons of decentralisation i guess. Although, it is a bit surreal to me that such a big amount can be inconsequentially laundered.
Zambyte 7 hours ago||
Binance is centralized.
dbdr 6 hours ago||
Binance is a very centralized entity.
Vaushite 10 hours ago|
Glad I moved my money out a while ago. And not onto BSC.
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