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Posted by cherioo 9 hours ago

Herdr has released native app(github.com)
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indemnity 5 hours ago|
In this vein I’ve started using Tern (https://stencil.so/tern), but it’s closed beta, from the creator of Oh My Pi.

This space seems to be heating up, everyone wanting to build the single pane of glass for agentic work.

alansaber 1 hour ago||
There's still space for innovation and UIUX improvements so why not I say
newdee 59 minutes ago|||
Wow, that site is gorgeous
evulhotdog 4 hours ago|||
I got access this week and I am blown away at how much better it makes oh-my-pi, and omp was already great!
technocratius 3 hours ago||
I got access around a week ago but found it quite unintuitive and found myself sticking to herdr for now, but was probably a bit quick to judge. What makes tern great for you?
barrenko 4 hours ago||
I've got access weeks ago, seems I've completely misunderstood what it does!
ziofill 7 hours ago||
> Usage telemetry is on by default in releases. Turn it off in Settings → Privacy.

Probably a good idea if you work with sensitive data (and you’re already on Zero Data Retention)

devjam 2 hours ago|
Telemetry does not include any data from your terminals, or names of files, folders or projects. In fact they even provide an example JSON payload for you to inspect in the settings dialog.
lexoj 3 hours ago||
How does it compare to Rex? (I use Rex but haven’t tried herdr so cant compare yet)
tietjens 1 hour ago|
I've been waiting for Rex access! How are you using it, have you installed on different servers?

I have more faith in team behind Rex so not putting the time in for Herdr.

_bobm 4 hours ago||
The relevant question: is herdr going to be sunset by herdr-app backed by herdr-core?

To me this is a valid signal.

WinstonSmith84 1 hour ago|
I was wondering this, too. The desktop appears to be based on herdr-core, and naturally I'd have imagined Herdr Server (terminal) to migrate to herdr-core as well. In fact I'm not even sure why they built herdr-core when they had Herdr Server ..

Anyway, the best comment I could find is that one here where even the main dev doesn't know the direction .. https://github.com/herdrdev/herdr-app/issues/63#issuecomment...

Lack of vision and fragmentation is concerning

ithkuil 12 minutes ago||
I was initially excited because I thought I could just try out a new frontend while keeping my 10 existing spaces each with 10 worktrees each with 2 or more tabs untouched.
cedws 2 hours ago||
I've been building something similar except it uses iroh for P2P instead of SSH. Would really like to use this but I don't want to use SSH.

edit: nevermind I see it presents a console rather than wrapping the agent with a native GUI. This won't work well on high latency connections.

scirob 2 hours ago||
I also built a similar thing a many. And in my experiments (even though iroh is great) iroh took significantly longer to reconnect vs mosh and ethernal. And actually plain old autossh was the best XP for me to close laptop get on traincopen again on mobile Internet.

So eventually I removed everything other than autossh.

Seeing as how many people are building similar things I'd love to share more. Maybe wanna ad each other respectively to the repo's ?I can share some of my benchmark results

cedws 2 hours ago|||
For me connect time is not really a concern, it happens once when I open the app. In my project I'm wrapping agents using ACP and presenting an actual GUI, so latency doesn't really have a perceptible impact. Running Claude Code in a console over any kind of remote connection is gonna feel bad.

Rather than for network performance I'm using iroh because I don't want to need a direct network path to the machines running my agents. Yeah I have Tailscale but that's more work to set up and I don't want my app to depend on users have a TS network.

scirob 2 hours ago|||
To elaborate on my usecase that herdr didn't so at all the the beginning but still does not do well: I have many vm's in different clouds working on different projects with different secrets that I want to keep isolated ( now also at home lan machines which when im travel get aliased to their tail scale address)

So my biggest requirements are around making isolation between environments convenient but safe from supply chain attacks .

I wonder what usecase you were optimizing for

nylonstrung 1 hour ago||
This sounds cool and a great use case for Iroh
game_the0ry 7 hours ago||
This is the first time I have even hear of Herdr, and I try to make an effort to follow ai.

It's getting very difficult to keep up with all the agent harnesses coming out. I love ai but wow its hard to keep up.

shepherdjerred 5 hours ago||
herdr is moderately well known if you look into agent multiplexers. IMO it is the best one from what I have tried (Paseo and Conductor are competitors in this area)

It's not a harness -- it's really more like a tmux for agents.

ramraj07 7 hours ago||
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siva7 5 hours ago|||
Your comment is so comically dumb.. Herdr is yet another recently vibe coded ai helper in a niche category. You wouldn't miss anything about frontier ai or coding agents if you don't use herdr and/or terminal multiplexers in your workflow.
drTobiasFunke 6 hours ago|||
I have been using herdr for a few months. Then i bought a new machine, installed claude code and asked it to setup herdr. Shockingly claude said it has no idea what herdr was. This was weird.

So I wouldn’t blame the commenter above.

tiffanyh 7 hours ago||
What’s the planned monetization model for all the terminal multiplexers backed by VC funding like Herdr, Rex, etc?
oefrha 7 hours ago||
Being acquired for $10B by $1T companies.
barrenko 4 hours ago||
Yes, become too big not to be acquired.
skinfaxi 7 hours ago|||
If the terminal is just a screen to a remote, they will sell you the remote, completely integrated into the harness.
adamisnotroman 7 hours ago||
I think they are all planning to make money on selling cloud or inference
oefrha 7 hours ago||
Supports SSH to remote machines out of the box, cool. I wonder if the protocol is more efficient than the TUI over SSH, would be nice on crappy connections when traveling.
adamisnotroman 7 hours ago|
the poor experience on a crappy network connection is an SSH problem unfortunately
oefrha 7 hours ago|||
It is, but if you send more efficient deltas, batch packets more intelligently, and introduce non-blocking UI tricks, the experience can be improved by quite a bit. mosh demonstrates some of that.
nsonha 17 minutes ago|||
this is a solved problem with mosh
DaSHacka 7 hours ago||
Darn, title had me thinking they released a mobile app to compliment the TUI daemon.

termux+mosh is fine, but especially on a phone I'd love a slightly more intuitive (or really, efficient) UI. Especially as mosh breaks touch/mouse input on the remote host.

I've never understood the point of the desktop GUI harnesses to run TUI (or at the very least, primarily text-based) programs anyway, but perhaps they're better for onboarding less tech-savvy users.

walthamstow 2 hours ago||
I've been using a Collie on Android to connect to my herdr server, it's very good
sooheon 7 hours ago|||
Have you tried moshi? It’s Herdr aware.

Tui-in-guis like orca are nice mostly because of sensible keybinds without prefix or leader

jasford 6 hours ago||
Moshi is pretty fantastic. I’ve been using it for several months and it works great. The developer is also launching fixes and improvements every week. It’s gotten materially better over the time I’ve been using it and it started out pretty great.
adamisnotroman 7 hours ago||
try cosyra mobile. Its the best mobile client for herdr. It uses websocket and is has a really smooth ux.
jbellis 7 hours ago|
If you like Herdr, you might also appreciate https://github.com/BrokkAi/mjolnir/, which is similar in its multiplexing features (although built on ACP) but offers cross-provider subagents, memory and session log sync, live migration of sessions across profiles and providers, and load balancing across multiple subscriptions.
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