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Posted by armcat 14 hours ago

Do the math: How we took over ChatGPT accounts(www.parameter.ai)
297 points | 143 commentspage 2
atrokhymchuk 12 hours ago|
if only they had some sort of cybersecurity state of the art thing...
15o9o 14 hours ago||
we are getting to the point of “why have passwords?” Right? At some point soon we have to move to the honor system of just please don’t login as me?
qup 10 hours ago||
My latest project emails a magic link.

I'm trying not to have any important data to even lose, when I eventually get hacked.

We can all turn up our noses, like the other commenters in this thread, but every one of them is exposed. Negligence is a matter of degrees.

latexr 10 hours ago||
> I'm trying not to have any important data to even lose

This is the way. Respect user privacy and keep as little data as possible, and not only do you become a less attractive target, if you are targeted the outcome won’t be so bad.

dataviz1000 12 hours ago|||
> please don’t login as me

Please don't drain my $6.5 billion in Dogecoin.

chamomeal 11 hours ago||
Been sayin this for years. Everybody in the world world: just BE COOL. Solves like every internet problem at once.
15o9o 10 hours ago||
we all joke but spiritual communities have been saying this is the way for years. Like the law of one stuff.
pllbnk 6 hours ago||
It's exhilarating (for the lack of the knowledge of a better word) to see OpenAI and Anthropic starting getting hacked and getting a taste of their own medicine. Brings back hope that actual software engineering is not dead yet.
jareklupinski 12 hours ago||
> able to take over anyone's account simply by sending them a link

dont click links people

that'll be $500k for the security training pls

kro 12 hours ago||
If they or their company use email "security" software that "scans" all links it's not necessarily the users fault / they don't in fact click. The mail is auto-confirmed the second it hits the inbox.

We've had to change our registration confirmation mails too recently to not confirm on GET only, but with another form - in hindsight it was stupid before but many services do that.

weird-eye-issue 10 hours ago|||
> We've had to change our registration confirmation mails too recently to not confirm on GET only, but with another form - in hindsight it was stupid before but many services do that.

This has been a thing since forever lol

dpark 10 hours ago||||
Security software fetching links will not trigger this behavior. It needs to be done in the context of the actual ChatGPT user so that a JavaScript payload can run.

If merely GET on the link was sufficient to trigger the behaviors, the adversary generating the link would just GET it themselves.

kro 9 hours ago||
Yes, if it requires the user session (xss related), like the article, there is no problem.

I was replying more generally about the "don't click links" advice and cases of server generated confirmation-token links (not saying this was the case at OpenAI)

gokulravi992 12 hours ago|||
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TobTobXX 12 hours ago|||
... says IT and then it sets Outlook to mangle link to abominations like [0]. "Check if the preview shows something different or suspicious."

[0]: https://che01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A...

Antipode 11 hours ago|||
I've worked at a company that did link mangling on everything except simulated phishing emails. The effect was that people were trained to trust the mangled links.
extraextra 10 hours ago|||
God I hate those
dist-epoch 12 hours ago|||
I wanted to check your website from your profile, but then I remembered your advice. Thanks!, dodged a potential bullet
bossyTeacher 12 hours ago|||
Also many emails from tech companies today:

- "sign in via one-time code."

- "Click here to see our latest update".

jareklupinski 12 hours ago|||
dont click links

250k refresher fee

pkthunder 11 hours ago|||
Click this link to be told not to click links.
atrokhymchuk 12 hours ago|||
hey, don't dump the market
kotaKat 12 hours ago||||
"Scan this QR code!"
Razengan 12 hours ago|||
Thanks! Here, click on this link to get paid
gib444 12 hours ago||
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monster_truck 11 hours ago||
only $5000 for this, lmao. It should be $50k out of pure shame. If they don't make these things hurt just a little they're never going to take following best practices seriously enough. There will be 9 more anyways.

Meanwhile the actual user of the account probably has to sign in using a yubikey because they get "CyBeRsEcRuItY aLeRtS" when they try to update node in their project to fix a crash and have to switch to daybreak blue to continue (or attempt to trick the normal models into doing it and risk getting autobanned)

htk 6 hours ago||
5k makes me think the next guy is gonna sell his exploit in the black market instead.
Zeruxe 6 hours ago||
5k is nothing for the amount of headache you just saved them..
jiveturkey 3 hours ago||
Hex aka Parameter is an irresponsible company, on my blacklist. after they did an unsolicited pentest on us, we scheduled a call. joke of a team.

hilarious that their headline message, on every web page, is `Backed by YC`.

also, the product is way behind their competitors anyway.

really cool exploit they found here, but that doesn't make them a company worth doing business with.

j9feng 8 hours ago||
Claude or Gemini didn’t find the vulnerability on ChatGPT?
Yieldz 8 hours ago|
Sigh. With how good Openai are good in programming frontier agents, they still have weak security. Hmmn, i'm short of words.
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