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Posted by karpathy 3 hours ago

HackerTube: YouTube built from videos recommended by HN(karpathy.bearblog.dev)
YouTube-style UI over 6,454 videos sourced from 39,834 HN comments since 2007.

https://hackertube.org/

521 points | 194 comments
zeroq 4 minutes ago|
Everyone has praised it already, so I won't be original, but I have to say that I've been looking for something like this for quite a while now. I consume a lot of long form videos on yt, similar to what you can find in your feed, but somehow yt keeps boxing me into very narrow space after a while with same videos over and over again. I've been trying to escape this trap by creating new accounts but eventually I keep finding myself in the same box.

Definitely something worth exploring.

murm 2 hours ago||
It's so refreshing browsing this compared to YouTube, it feels like I don't have to constantly be on high alert at being baited into some trap. Makes you wonder what kind of internet could be possible if all these tech giants weren't just optimizing for engagement and addiction.
thanhhaimai 1 hour ago||
Opinions are my own.

One of the positive effects of the recent AI wave is that it shows more folks are warming up to the idea of paying a subscription for tech. Perhaps, the next generation will grow up with tech that doesn't rely on addiction to earn ads money. The downside is that the gap between "folks who can afford tech" and "folks who cannot" might grow even more.

okdood64 16 minutes ago|||
Let's be realistic. Most of the videos on hackertube.org wouldn't exist if it weren't for the enormous sums of money YouTube pays their creators because of...ads.

I would also be more impressed with it if they created their own video processing and serving stack.

kennywinker 53 minutes ago|||
I (and millions of other people) literally had a netflix streaming subscription for 15 years (up until I cancelled it last year after 4 or 5 price hikes). The desire and ability to pay for stuff has always been there - but at the same time, there's a reason youtube has youtube content and netflix has netflix content.
trvz 47 minutes ago||
Netflix was easy, switching to it meant saving money for all the TV addicts.

Compare it to the widespread refusal to pay for Youtube Premium even as ads get worse there.

worik 32 minutes ago|||
My ad blocker still works on YouTube
dontlaugh 15 minutes ago|||
YouTube Premium is a terrible deal.
virpo 1 hour ago|||
Same feeling. For me the trap was mostly titles and thumbnails, A/B tested to trap my time.

I made myself a thing that tries to answer the title + thumbnail from the transcript, and shows me the answer if there is a good one. Never launched it, but it's at youtldr.com if you want to try.

collingreen 16 minutes ago||
Fantastic domain. I hope you get whatever you want out of it.
Aromasin 2 hours ago|||
It makes me yearn for what we lost. I remember when the Internet was all like this page, and it was bloody wonderful. I hope we get to a point where hosting becomes functionally free, and the brain rotting advertisement spam becomes a thing of the past.
kravmaga999 1 hour ago||
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mikert89 1 hour ago|||
the recommendation system is so sad, its stealing good content from all of us. they just churn the same click back crap
tdhz77 12 minutes ago|||
A majority of right wing extremism starts via YouTube.
apsurd 1 hour ago|||
I'll definitely be taking a look, but it seems that the videos are still hosted on Youtube?

The main issue with Youtube are the ad rolls. The video content itself can be great. But I wouldn't wish those ads on my worst enemy. It's mind poison. Straight poison into your consciousness. AI generated ads for every conceivable image and status vulnerability. And they now do this weird thing where the ad is delivered as a pop song. Like a Taylor Swift engineered pop song for a Korean face mask. The song is 10 mins long about how this woman was happily married then divorced then saw her husband with a woman half his age and how that made her feel and how her self worth was tied to her marriage and her looks but also she's not just that but also somehow the solution is a Korean face mask. It was really traumatizing for me. You can see how much it infected my mind. It's poison.

lukan 53 minutes ago|||
Pssst, Firefox and UBlock origin still solve that even for youtube.
yard2010 45 minutes ago||||
Thank you for giving me a glimpse. Reading half through your comment made me realize I never saw YouTube ads since the AI cancer, naturally, I wondered what it feels like.
spiderice 1 hour ago|||
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dang 1 hour ago|||
Can you please make your substantive points thoughtfully and not cross into personal attack?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

apsurd 1 hour ago|||
I watched the entire thing to provide meta-commentary as I just did. I explicitly try not to solidify my position with knee-jerk reactions to the world. So yes I did watch the entire thing to fully qualify the poison-experience.
ButlerianJihad 1 hour ago||
What you can do is start a channel where you feature your emotional reactions to each long-form ad as it rolls on the screen. Then, you can purchase the items from the ads and explain how they totally were not the solution they promised to us. Then, having monetized your reaction/review channel, you should have enough to pay for YouTube Premium every month!
fortran77 26 minutes ago||
Really? I quickly found some awful horrific racist material on "HackerTube". No thanks.
collingreen 16 minutes ago||
Do you leave all platforms like that or just this one?
zmmmmm 45 minutes ago||
I've been a bit fascinated by my lack of interest in the feeds that are curated for me. They are all things I'm supposedly interested in but I just am not when I see them in that format.

I realised after a while that one of the main reasons I go online is to expand my horizons. I'm actively looking for something new or interesting or surprising that I might not have encountered or thought about before. I am also looking for perspective - give me a broad picture of how the world is so I can calibrate and introspect where my own perspective differs and could be updated. I want to see the things that don't fully align with my ideas.

So it turns out personalised feeds are actively curating against what I'm looking for. I'm curious if others are like me or is this just something weird about me. I think it is very much why I like Hacker News format. It's in the broad areas of my interests but it is anything but curated just for me.

minimaxa 2 hours ago||
You know what I like about this? It's 100% pure nerd content, no sneaky influencer videos or clickbaity news.

It does need a new-to-old sort though, which is easy to add in.

If you watched all of these videos, you would be the smartest, most annoying person ever. Lol

SamDc73 1 hour ago|
> It's 100% pure nerd content

well some might use it to listen to Rick Astley's Music

rigrassm 1 hour ago||
You have no idea how big of a smile it put on my face when I saw the "Longs" option in the sidebar.

Seriously, thank you for prompting this into existence!

reorder9695 3 hours ago||
I find it amazing how close the front page of this is to what I actually watch/want to watch on YouTube. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but it feels like an unpersonalised feed (besides being based on Hacker News) shouldn't have a significantly better hitrate for me than YouTube's "personalised" feed.
rileymat2 2 hours ago|
I am not sure the personalize algorithm is based on what you want to watch, but what will keep you watching. That’s a measurable KPI.
thrance 2 hours ago||
Dumb question maybe, but aren't these two metrics supposed to be aligned? How can they keep me watching if they don't show me stuff I want to click on?
pocksuppet 2 hours ago|||
One common trick in Shorts is for the topic of the video to not be revealed until the end, while leaving enough clues that you think the topic will be worthwhile. "So anyways, I was reverse engineering this project with Claude and I came across this little detail that I think some of you might be interested to know. This IoT product that I've got in this box right here is a smart doorbell that quacks when you step on it. But actually by holding this button for five seconds you can make it meow instead."

If you swipe away when it shows it's about an IoT doorbell you watched half, and if you swipe away after seeing the button makes it meow you watched the whole thing. In either case the algorithm thinks you liked it more than average.

In long-form videos this doesn't really work but you can use vague titles to achieve higher click rates. Taken from my actual homepage: "DON'T GIVE ME HOPE, DON'T LET ME HOPE THIS MUCH" "Did you know about these...?" "Calcium Carbide Trick" "The WORST skill to train on OSRS" "They Were Busy With Their Big Plans" "If you were trying to destroy the economy..." "What happens when we don't need each other any more?"

You know which one I'm not going to click on? "FRACTRAN: 14 fractions that produce infinite primes". That's because I already know FRACTRAN is an esoteric programming language written in fractions.

DennisP 1 hour ago||||
On the one hand there's stuff you think is worthwhile to learn about, and on the other there's the dopamine brain candy that youtube throws at you along the way. They just want to keep you clicking, they don't care whether you feel good about it afterwards.

Do a good job training it and this isn't much of an issue, but give it an inch...

WASDx 46 minutes ago|||
It's like fast food vs healthy food.
twalichiewicz 3 hours ago||
Interesting project, but have you considered publishing the curated videos as automatically maintained playlists (organized by topic, popularity, or recency) on a YouTube channel?

To me the most valuable part of this is the curation pipeline. I'd love to have access to those recommendations without needing to adopt an entirely separate viewing experience.

karpathy 3 hours ago||
I like the idea of playlists, might even work to ask Claude to make a few. Did you have in mind the ability to create and publish them on the site somehow?
twalichiewicz 2 hours ago|||
I was actually thinking of publishing them directly to YouTube, under a HackerTube channel, with playlists automatically generated and maintained by your existing curation pipeline.
seb1204 1 hour ago||
Yes please, not sure why this does not exist yet. I would even think that almost all YouTube video links from HN would make a better experience compared to the algo feed.
waschl 2 hours ago|||
Having HackerTube videos as playlists inside YT makes the video selection available on any device with YouTube app on it, like TVs etc.
numbasys 1 hour ago||
> push to a VPS, secure, harden, optimize

In my opinion this is the part that's holding back _a lot_ more people from publishing. It's a barrier that's surely about to fall. Still interested what steps you took (and manually, or Claude did it all?)

karpathy 40 minutes ago||
I didn’t touch anything manually I only talked to Claude the whole project, except for YouTube API key, domain, its DNS record and VPS node boot.
thoughtpeddler 25 minutes ago||
Curious about the hardening and optimizing - how much extra prompting is spent to ensure a ‘clean’ software supply chain for this, versus having Claude at its own discretion use third-party packages/libraries/etc (or not)?
moffkalast 58 minutes ago|||
> Buy a VPS, publish to it, buy a domain and link it, then keep paying for both in perpetuity.

I've always been put off by the continuing financial obligations personally. Like I'll invest a considerable amount for one time things easily, but year after year with constantly increasing costs? No fuckin way.

cannonpalms 47 minutes ago||
I rented a hetzner server years ago and have steadily grown into it. No increasing costs so far.
globalnode 56 minutes ago||
would love to see a write up on this too. my own tech experience has been all back end stuff and doing everything myself, so tying into "the way things are done online" aint so easy. and my patience for reading 3-4 books on it is close to zero.
karpathy 37 minutes ago||
I’ll add a bit more to the post when I get back from trick or treating
globalnode 22 minutes ago||
Thanks Andrej, look forward to it.
mixtureoftakes 3 hours ago||
I wish there was a way to sort by recency, if i'm mainly interested in finding obscure gems from like last 6 to 12 months of ai and tech updates
karpathy 3 hours ago||
added a few minutes ago!
kkotak 2 hours ago|||
Don't see it.
karpathy 2 hours ago||
first do a search, then on top you'll see "Filter". might try to make more prominent from main page
macote 2 hours ago|||
Yes, please, I couldn't figure it out as well.
karpathy 2 hours ago||
added! now can be done via Filter on the main page.
mixtureoftakes 2 hours ago|||
thanks!
Aboutplants 3 hours ago|||
Yeah, this is the first thing I looked for and when I couldn’t find it I easily decided it’s something I would never come back to. Add this feature and it’s something I would come to frequently
mattbis 2 hours ago|||
plus one when in programming mode; i have playlists on YT; but this helps to focus... and mostly I find HN has very interesting things that spawn a ton of thoughts...

people like us don't have that much time...

thruway516 2 hours ago|||
Well, build your own in 2.1hrs (or 2 minutes if you have access to the source)
mtVessel 3 hours ago||
Seconded! (please)
jimothyhalpert7 27 minutes ago|
This prompted me to finish HackerNewsTV – YouTube playlist of latest HN videos, updated daily:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50321248

shrx 18 minutes ago|
It seems that even HN can't avoid linking the clickbaity titles.
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