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Posted by ingve 7 hours ago

If you love a website, back it up(blog.mistys-internet.website)
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omeysalvi 3 hours ago|
I did actually. I took a whole day to go to each of my individual saved bookmarks and save the articles as pdf using edge reader mode, sometimes hunting down articles on the way back machine
xlayn 4 hours ago||
the last source of truth are forums.. but not reddit... if it has a CEO it will rot and enshitify.

I'm talking about forums... the bmw forum for your old car... the motorcycle forum for the enthusiast of the SV650... those places are full of anecdotes, people talking, lending a hand to another person... being humans and care...

Which is what social media is/should/was about, is what internet is about before the enshitification happened... I would vote to have this ID associated to you via check of your local goverment issued id and ONLY UPPON VERIFICATION of you being using that you can log and read and use those websites without tracking you (Yes 10,000 ifs where this is secure, handled in a confidential matter, the whole tech is not to track that you are doing something... but that a human is behind that, no api, no robot, no adds, no nothing... just the old school forum where you can go, talk, submit a photo... where someone who wanted to spend time to write something did it, SO WE CAN ENSURE TWO THINGS, A HUMAN IS THERE, AND NO FVK!NG CEO WILL ENSHITIFY IT, no to track people, but to know that a person is interacting there)

But because "empathy is the weakness" and shareholder value...

Terr_ 1 hour ago|
> the last source of truth are forums.. but not reddit... if it has a CEO it will rot and enshitify.

Quick gripe-anecdote that occurred (again) just now: I have a technical question, the search-engine says it was discussed in a Reddit thread, so I go to Reddit, giving them my traffic and eyeballs just like they want... but the information is impossible to find because "new" Reddit hides/collapses 90% of the discussion by default and there's no way to tell which branch has what I need without manually clicking them all. (And them some of them will reload the entire page, erasing progress.)

So I have no sympathy for their whining about scraping when they spent already years making it painful for actual live organic humans to find anything.

> Which is what social media is/should/was about

I think our two imperfect approaches here are:

1. Webs of trust, in some way that resists crowds of sockpuppets.

2. Some kind or proof of stake. Proof of anonymous-humanity is hard, proof of unique-humanity is creepy spy stuff, but "proof if you ban me it'll at least hurt a little" might be easier to achieve.

h46u5jytyhtg 3 hours ago||
I tend to save things I read as PDFs because it feels the most robust archival formal for the future.
garbagecreator 1 hour ago|
Plain text is "the most robust archival formal for the future."
zabriel_goss 4 hours ago||
Over the summer, I had the urge to do this with a few favorite blogs. wget did the trick for static content
kevinwang 4 hours ago||
Another great writeup about backing up websites: https://gwern.net/archiving
BiscuitEater546 3 hours ago||
Thanks for the guide ,I never new about this
amelius 4 hours ago||
Yes, and with AI you can even back up the logic behind a website (the back-end), and even generate fake but plausible data to fill it if crawling is too much work.
hluska 3 hours ago||
There are far better tools that are not built by this person’s company. Dig around and you’ll find an incredible array. Not everything has to be a sales pitch.
leni536 3 hours ago||
Same goes for youtube vids
hagbard_c 4 hours ago|
Have a look at Hister [1], a 'personal web history search engine' which by way of extensions for browsers captures your web history and stores actual page content on your own instance where it can be browsed and searched. It does not store images so if that's what you're mostly interested in it won't work for you. For text is works quite well, maybe sometimes too well since it also stores ephemeral things like HN comment pages unless you tell it not to.

[1] https://github.com/asciimoo/hister/

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