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Posted by aarushyadav 1 day ago

Show HN: Subvocal – Talk to your computer without making noise

Hi HN, we're Aarush and Arnav from The Subvocal Company (YC F26) (https://subvocal.company/). We’re building smart glasses that let you talk to your computer without talking out loud. You can mouth words silently and discreetly and the glasses decode them to text at the speed of speech.

Here's a video of Dave from YC trying it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QdX1eObVYI

(Edit: you don't actually have to move your lips or even open your mouth for this to work! Since the RF can see inside your mouth the system can be fine tuned on "internal speech". This isn't the automatic tongue movements that occur when "thinking" words to yourself, but more like mouthing with your lips closed. It's a bit weird to do, but with practice, we have been able to get it down pretty well.)

Arnav and I were studying CS at Georgia Tech at the beginning of the year, with no experience in silent speech or sensing. We were both AI-native builders and power users of Wispr Flow. What bugged us was not being able to use these tools in the library (or an office) or in public. At Stanford’s TreeHacks in February, we decided to build the most technically ridiculous thing we could think of. We’d read about AlterEgo, a silent speech system out of MIT’s Media Lab, and wanted to recreate it in 36 hours. We built a crude prototype, sticking EMG electrodes onto my face:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mwhv5HZMz3UTevdrgwS5O7g2jWV...

We got it to kind of work at a letter level in a very janky way. It wasn’t good enough to win the hackathon, but convinced us to go all in. The first time I typed a sentence without anyone noticing, I felt the magic of the technology.

We quickly realized EMG (reading muscle electrical signals) wouldn’t work:

- Signal changes due to sweat

- Electrical interference

- Placement variability

- Most importantly, no one wants to stick electrodes onto their face!!

So we switched to RF and built the glasses you see now. They emit radio waves, similar to Bluetooth, that pass through your face. As they cross the tongue, lips and soft palate, they’re modulated by silent mouthing. We train foundation models on this data to decode these perturbations to text.

Despite prior academic research, getting this to work was a huge engineering challenge. First we built an extremely low noise RF sensing stack. Then we had to place antennas so their fields overlapped maximally with the articulators. Our first attempt on glasses failed completely, so we reverted to old habits and taped antennas on our face:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ks0dS0eZiTV9EqSFsyB_w5BBjpc...

Since taping antennas consistently in the same spot and angle was hard, we created this weird but effective head rig to hold them in place:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rhzNFpdDzr7oHk0isFY70dkoV4C...

This worked, but obviously wasn’t a product yet. So we worked deep in simulations to design glasses that could hold the antennas.

That evolved into our design now, with antennas embedded within the frames. Once we established there was a signal, the next hurdle was cross-user generalization. Everyone’s facial anatomy, and hence RF signal patterns, are vastly different. We tried algorithmic workarounds but realized the only lever was to massively scale pretraining data.

So that’s what we did. We set up booths in our office and paid people to read prompts wearing our glasses, to pretrain our models on. This produced a beautiful scaling curve, with errors falling quickly as we scaled our dataset and cross-user performance becoming genuinely compelling (as you see in the video above; Dave only had a short 20-sentence calibration).

We always heard about building things from first principles but never understood it before this. We tried tackling it top down but completely failed. Only when we broke each component (the antenna, electronics, ML) down to its fundamentals to understand and optimize it did we get it to work really well.

Over the next few months we’re continuing R&D to turn our prototype glasses into the slick product on our website and ship in Q1 2027. We’re also scaling up our dataset to improve performance on edge cases.

For anyone who loves voice dictation but hates using it around people, we’ve opened preorders for our first batch of 500 units, with a $200 discount off the final price. Allocation is running out quickly, so get yours at https://subvocal.co/preorder!

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Unified-Mentor 20 hours ago|
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hmokiguess 1 day ago||
EDIT: I find talking in that manner in a public setup to be awkward and unpleasant, maybe that's just me.

That said, I think the idea of having a private walkie-talkie that connects on its own frequency for large crowded spaces to be very cool

dang 1 day ago|
> I like it but I don't want it, I'm not sure, it feels weird and cringy.

"Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

p.s. Especially please don't do this when a thread is brand new. Such comments are the easiest to post, and therefore the quickest to appear, but by posting them, you steer the discussion straight away from the curious, thoughtful conversation we want here. Threads are extremely sensitive to initial conditions, so this is important.

hmokiguess 1 day ago||
Apologies, I edited, can you tell me if my edit is ok? EDIT: happy to delete and repost my edit instead too
dang 1 day ago||
It's better. I've turned off the flag.
ipsum2 1 day ago|
All of the images, including the glasses, are AI generated.

Anyone who preorders - you are getting scammed.

Pangram: https://www.pangram.com/history/images/614ffe91-8ba9-4d3c-b1...

dang 1 day ago||
They're taking pre-orders. Obviously the product doesn't exist yet. The tech is real.

You can like or dislike generated images (if that's what they are—I haven't looked) but this post has nothing to do with scamming anyone, and given the wealth of technical information in the thread, including a video showing the product under development, it seems like a weird claim to arrive at.

ipsum2 1 day ago||
Et tu, dang?

You don't see how this is misleading or fradulent (i.e. definition of a scam) in any way? A realistic image of someone wearing the glasses that don't exist yet, without disclosing it?

mpeg 1 day ago|||
That's every product launch ever... if it's not been built yet, you're always looking at a render/photoshop/fake
dang 1 day ago|||
Scam in this context would mean selling people a product or technology that won't ever exist. This is the opposite of that.
ipsum2 1 day ago||
If they don't deliver the product in the image they've shown, Q1 2027, will you admit its a scam then? What would it take?

It's absolutely clear that if they're using AI generated images, they haven't even gotten a physical design of the product they're trying to sell.

dang 1 day ago||
You're condemning them for spending all their time making the product work instead of...focusing on their website? Bit strange to call someone a scammer for doing the opposite of what scammers do.
floren 1 day ago|||
On the other side of it, I've been following Brilliant Labs' Halo smartglasses since they were announced last summer, with a shipping date of "November 2025"... which soon became "Q4 2025", then every two weeks since then has been another delay. As of October we finally confirmed that nearly a dozen people had received units.

So yeah, I don't think it's unwarranted to be skeptical when somebody shows an AI render and says "we'll ship this within 6 months".

jryle70 1 day ago||
Skepticism about shipping date is normal, especially for something novel and hard. Calling people fraud without evidence is just bad.
ipsum2 1 day ago||
AI generated imagery of their product, without disclosure is not evidence?
ipsum2 1 day ago|||
let's circle back q2 2027 when these glasses are delivered to you.
AStrangeMorrow 1 day ago||
I mean the whole website / linked page is filled with AI generated images. Which is one thing. But very basic, obviously AI generated ones, which makes it worse. At least for me it doesn’t inspire confidence.