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Posted by aarushyadav 1 day ago

Show HN: Subvocal – Talk to your computer without making noise

Hi HN, we're Aarush and Arnav from The Subvocal Company (YC F26) (https://subvocal.company/). We’re building smart glasses that let you talk to your computer without talking out loud. You can mouth words silently and discreetly and the glasses decode them to text at the speed of speech.

Here's a video of Dave from YC trying it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QdX1eObVYI

(Edit: you don't actually have to move your lips or even open your mouth for this to work! Since the RF can see inside your mouth the system can be fine tuned on "internal speech". This isn't the automatic tongue movements that occur when "thinking" words to yourself, but more like mouthing with your lips closed. It's a bit weird to do, but with practice, we have been able to get it down pretty well.)

Arnav and I were studying CS at Georgia Tech at the beginning of the year, with no experience in silent speech or sensing. We were both AI-native builders and power users of Wispr Flow. What bugged us was not being able to use these tools in the library (or an office) or in public. At Stanford’s TreeHacks in February, we decided to build the most technically ridiculous thing we could think of. We’d read about AlterEgo, a silent speech system out of MIT’s Media Lab, and wanted to recreate it in 36 hours. We built a crude prototype, sticking EMG electrodes onto my face:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mwhv5HZMz3UTevdrgwS5O7g2jWV...

We got it to kind of work at a letter level in a very janky way. It wasn’t good enough to win the hackathon, but convinced us to go all in. The first time I typed a sentence without anyone noticing, I felt the magic of the technology.

We quickly realized EMG (reading muscle electrical signals) wouldn’t work:

- Signal changes due to sweat

- Electrical interference

- Placement variability

- Most importantly, no one wants to stick electrodes onto their face!!

So we switched to RF and built the glasses you see now. They emit radio waves, similar to Bluetooth, that pass through your face. As they cross the tongue, lips and soft palate, they’re modulated by silent mouthing. We train foundation models on this data to decode these perturbations to text.

Despite prior academic research, getting this to work was a huge engineering challenge. First we built an extremely low noise RF sensing stack. Then we had to place antennas so their fields overlapped maximally with the articulators. Our first attempt on glasses failed completely, so we reverted to old habits and taped antennas on our face:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ks0dS0eZiTV9EqSFsyB_w5BBjpc...

Since taping antennas consistently in the same spot and angle was hard, we created this weird but effective head rig to hold them in place:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rhzNFpdDzr7oHk0isFY70dkoV4C...

This worked, but obviously wasn’t a product yet. So we worked deep in simulations to design glasses that could hold the antennas.

That evolved into our design now, with antennas embedded within the frames. Once we established there was a signal, the next hurdle was cross-user generalization. Everyone’s facial anatomy, and hence RF signal patterns, are vastly different. We tried algorithmic workarounds but realized the only lever was to massively scale pretraining data.

So that’s what we did. We set up booths in our office and paid people to read prompts wearing our glasses, to pretrain our models on. This produced a beautiful scaling curve, with errors falling quickly as we scaled our dataset and cross-user performance becoming genuinely compelling (as you see in the video above; Dave only had a short 20-sentence calibration).

We always heard about building things from first principles but never understood it before this. We tried tackling it top down but completely failed. Only when we broke each component (the antenna, electronics, ML) down to its fundamentals to understand and optimize it did we get it to work really well.

Over the next few months we’re continuing R&D to turn our prototype glasses into the slick product on our website and ship in Q1 2027. We’re also scaling up our dataset to improve performance on edge cases.

For anyone who loves voice dictation but hates using it around people, we’ve opened preorders for our first batch of 500 units, with a $200 discount off the final price. Allocation is running out quickly, so get yours at https://subvocal.co/preorder!

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smokel 1 day ago|
Are there any health risks with this method?

Edit: mostly concerned about RF near my eyes for 8 hours a day.

aarushyadav 1 day ago||
No, the RF is very low power and can safely be active on your face for long periods. We've done a lot of investigation and verification with safety. While doing R&D the first 2 months we collected hundreds of hours of data on ourselves with various configurations, so we made sure it was safe before :)

Also, the RF transmission only activates when you're actively dictating.

lrae 1 day ago||
Not gonna lie, this answer made me question the safety more than I would've prior to reading it.

If you actually have done any documented research on it, might wanna link to it.

HIP_HOP 1 day ago|||
Yeah, so a recent study discovered that talking silently makes other people harder to hear you so they think they have problem hearing.
hirako2000 1 day ago||
Sensorimotor debility is a thing. This gadget surely won't help with it.
vakili 1 day ago||
Vox [0] is an alternative device with similar aims, worn as a pendant instead of glasses.

[0] https://www.augmental.tech/vox

s3graham 1 day ago||
Neat! I don't like talking to my computer (audibly or not), but that's a cool demo.

I wonder if we could eventually end up with a "throat muscle" version where people learn to talk a new way without having to move the visible mouth muscles too.

aftbit 1 day ago||
Can this be made to work offline, without a cloud server? I wouldn't want my words to be passed through an API, but run locally on device. I don't mind buying fast GPUs for this.
aarushyadav 1 day ago|
When we launch, no, it will be cloud inference, but will be processed with encryption in hardware isolation and only retained and used for anonymized training with your consent. At some point in the future we may make models available for local inference though.
tyushk 30 minutes ago|||
Then I'll purchase at some point in the future. Local processing is make or break for me, as this is the exact kind of data (idle mouth movements) that feels the most prone to mining, and the most prone to accidentally leaking something important in. I hope you reconsider offline use before they ship; these are really exciting to me and I'd love to use them.
aftbit 11 hours ago|||
Understood. Cool tech, but I'll pass then and wait for someone to reverse engineer it and release it in a way that I can use.
jdironman 1 day ago||
What I would really like is a washable "cyber suit". Mock or turtle neck (for the voice / STT capture / control), EEG sensors, breathing rate, blood pressure, gestures via arm motion sensors,). Removable rechargeable battery module to wash the torso / shirt slap it on a clean one. For EEG it would have to be pretty compressed though, so not sure it would be comfortable enough to wear to sleep? maybe only an internal harness needs to be that compressed. not sure. I'm tired of wearing a Fitbit, or glasses, or these different things people have to look at, keep up with, break easy etc.
kragen 18 hours ago||
Using microwave radar to watch your users' tongues is amazing. I had no idea that was possible.
tobyhinloopen 17 hours ago|
Finally a comment that describes what this thing actually does! Tnx
kragen 13 hours ago||
I think they're terrified of using the word "microwave" because it might scare the ignorant masses.
aabajian 20 hours ago||
I like it a lot, but I have to ask: Is this better that speaking very quietly? For example, a lot of people "read out loud" to themselves in a very quite voice. I think it would almost seem more natural to make a very quiet sound than to have no sound at all.
json_hero 1 day ago||
Should really just be like a leap motion device on the desk, glasses are so gimmicky and aren't gonna fly for people with prescriptions (a large set of people in-front of computers all day)
xur17 1 day ago||
People with prescriptions can just get versions with prescriptions in them (this is a thing for "smart" glasses already).
conductr 1 day ago||
Can, but as a new product it is going to limit their adoption rate by some pretty significant amount.
philsnow 1 day ago||
half of the other people in the office in the video are wearing prescription glasses
mr_world 22 hours ago||
It's funny, because Arnav is also the name of the engineer who built AlterEgo. Was confused for a second there
nolroz 12 hours ago|
This looks incredible! Is there going to be a monthly fee? Can we run this on our own hardware with local transcription?
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