OpenAI seems to be silently re-enabling model training on Codex chats

Posted by user052919 3 hours ago

My company is pretty paranoid about leaking IP to the frontier labs through prompts, so we've all been diligent about disabling data sharing in Codex/Claude Code/etc. But yesterday my coworkers and I noticed that the setting had been silently reenabled in Codex. None of us knowingly opted back in.

You can check your settings here: https://chatgpt.com/settings/data-controls. Look for "Improve the model for everyone".

Curious if this is an isolated issue or something more widespread.

EDIT: looks like this has been noted before https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49643556

EDIT: apparently you can also turn off data sharing here: https://privacy.openai.com/policies?modal=take-control

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_doctor_love 2 hours ago|

When you think about it, it's really terrible for your training data to be sitting on your machine uningested. It ought to be centrally located. You know, for the greater good.

hyperbovine 1 hour ago||

Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by stupidity.

The quality of their software is such crap and this is probably just some vibe coding mishap. Go read the Github issues for Codex CLI for example -- robots talking past other robots. I am 99.9% certain not a single human being has a deep understanding of what is going on with the Codex app anymore.

digitaltrees 20 minutes ago||

That quote isn't reasonable when there are profound economic incentives to do the malicious thing.

noir_lord 1 hour ago|||

They do kind of have to eat their own dogfood (or at least pretend to publically), you do wonder if they'll be an interesting public example of choking on that dogfood at some point.

rfgplk 1 hour ago||

The frontier labs are entirely AI generated at this point. By entirely I mean ~100% of the code and supplementary training pipelines are AI created, with ZERO human guidance or oversight. And compare the results, look at Opus 5.5 vs the original Opus (which was human made). See the difference?

In fact, my personal prediction is that OpenAI and Anthropic will let go of all their human employees by Q1 2027.

tacone 1 hour ago|||

Malice and stupidity reinforce each other. If you find yourself unable to determine which one is causing the issue, run.

rfgplk 1 hour ago|||

> 99.9% certain not a single human being has a deep understanding of what is going on with the Codex app anymore

Because humans actually don't have the ability to.

dan_thinks 1 hour ago||

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thewhitetulip 1 hour ago||

They said that they have millions of lines of PRs merged daily

Pretty sure they don't know this has happened lol

Maybe they'll raise a new PR with 1000000 lines to revert back now that you guys leaked the information

spwa4 2 hours ago||

OpenAI is also now hiding your usage. Not accessible anymore in the menu, and /usage in the codex app now also gives a lot of stats, but the one stat you do want to know, how much limit left, is no longer there.

I'm guessing another big usage reduction is coming soon.

wisemanwillhear 1 hour ago||

Mine got move out of the user menu on the lower left to just above the user menu as it's own clickable selection. The other day, I though they took the old quick view of usage away, and started going back to the settings to look. Turns out they just moved it.

pizza234 2 hours ago|||

> Not accessible anymore in the menu, and /usage in the codex app now also gives a lot of stats

Codex shows the usage limits on /status - Claude instead does it on /usage.

user052919 2 hours ago||

fwiw I can still see my usage in the Codex app

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