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Posted by user_7832 2 hours ago

Preparing for the Flipper One Kickstarter and opening pre-orders(flipper.net)
https://docs.flipper.net/one
113 points | 49 commentspage 2
imzadi 2 hours ago|
How long is the pre-order window? I didn't see that on the site, but might have missed it.
MOARDONGZPLZ 1 hour ago|
Until the Kickstarter starts, which is planned for November. At which point you can redeem the coupon and back the Kickstarter and get it at a “special price” which is estimated to be $379 (might change up or down). Presumably this is lower than the Kickstarter price itself without the reservation coupon. A bit of a convoluted system, but you can get your $20 back anytime, and it automatically refunds if you don’t back the Kickstarter or the Kickstarter never launches, so that’s cool.
auguzanellato 1 hour ago||
Sigh, all I wanted was a Zero successor with a more powerful MCU to mess around with, this seems more like a mini PC of sorts.
supersimpleguy 1 hour ago|
It’s got M.2 and GPIO. This is exactly what you just asked for, but for some reason you saw a picture of it plugged into a monitor and declared it nothing more than a mini PC.
auguzanellato 57 minutes ago||
I'm mostly a NFC, RFID and SubGHZ guy so out of the box it does nothing useful for me without having to add external modules, my Zero on the other hand works great by itself except for once in a while plugging in the WiFi add-on board to debug some custom apps I've written for it.
supersimpleguy 42 minutes ago||
...so you want the Flipper Zero, which works on a physical layer.

Just sigh away I suppose. You seem upset they didn't release a product you already own.

thin_carapace 22 minutes ago||
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ipkstef 2 hours ago||
i have my og flipper gathering dust :tears:
thenthenthen 2 hours ago||
Dust it off! It was a weird device, mostly a toy? This new one is… yeah not sure. More of the same?
duskwuff 53 minutes ago|||
> This new one is… yeah not sure. More of the same?

Not even. It's an ARM SBC in a weird case. The F0 was interesting because it had a bunch of oddball radio/IO peripherals; F1 doesn't seem to have anything comparable.

internetter 1 hour ago|||
> It was a weird device, mostly a toy?

While I do agree it was/is weird, and it was/is hard to qualify, toy isn't the word I'd reach for. I find myself using it for some odd task once every few months. Cloning a keycard, temporarily standing in for a broken remote, etc. I'm glad I have it, but I was given it for free and I wouldn't pay for it.

pcurve_ 1 hour ago||
same, I assumed it would have full support for nfc which is the protocol I care most about and ordered via kickstarter

only to find out nfc-b would never come

meh

Jemm 2 hours ago||
I read the page but not being an expert on Flipper I am not confident I can tell the difference from the Flipper Zero.
GuB-42 1 hour ago||
It is a completely different device.

Flipper Zero is for the physical layer: radio, RFID, IR, etc... It is based on a small microcontroller and is mostly "bare metal", think Arduino, ESP32,...

Flipper One is for the network layer: Ethernet, Wi-Fi, 5G, etc... It is a "real computer" running Linux, like a Raspberry Pi.

venusenvy47 44 minutes ago||
Interesting. So the model number corresponds to the OSI network layer?
et-al 1 hour ago|||
Yeah, they should have included a comparison on the Kickstart page. If you check out the "we need your help" page, that has a chart with "Zero vs One":

https://blog.flipper.net/flipper-one-we-need-your-help/

The two devices are complementary.

miladyincontrol 2 hours ago|||
flipper zero is just a small device with an SMT32 MCU, flipper one is a whole bloody linux computer, with an rp2350

I suppose the idea is it combines workflows you'd use a flipper zero + pc for into one device. Neat in idea, im not certain who it's truly for in practice. A flipper zero 2 with wifi built in and some minor improvements would have been much more welcome in my eyes.

jubilee33 1 hour ago|||
I used it instead if needing to have a pocketful of access keys and garage/gate remotes. Also the remote control was great for random AC units or muting the sound on the airport lounge newsmax horror television.

but it broke too much and I found a better solution

bronson 1 hour ago||
Don't leave us hanging! What's the better solution for you?
jubilee33 1 hour ago||
Sorry...for the keys I got a very small chameleon ultra, fits on a keyring, the pocket toy has been replaced with a M5 cardputer which is better at being a real tool than flipper as it has all the sensor options.

The flipper was still a very nice thing to put in the pocket for along time for sure

monster_truck 1 hour ago|||
The wifi board works fine with the zero, integrating it into the device is a pain in the ass, far from a 'minor' improvement.
Eji1700 2 hours ago||
Zero does mostly "radio" stuff (RFID, subghz, etc). One does mostly "network" stuff (wifi, 5g, etc).
ChrisArchitect 2 hours ago||
Maybe this should be the link: https://flipper.net/products/flipper-one-preorder
tamimio 1 hour ago||
Battery life?!

Also, this feels.. redundant, i already have those in my laptop, unlike flipper zero, it was about radio, rfid, nfc, ir, among others with great battery life. Right now my laptop i had it customized with modular 5g modem, SDR, meshcore, alfa, among others.

forvelin 2 hours ago||
what are their connection with Russian Federation ? all their job ads asked for russian iirc.
sigmoid10 2 hours ago||
Flipper was born in Moscow from a collab mostly made of Russians and Ukrainians. They were pretty outspoken against the attack on Ukraine and have moved headqurters and almost completely relocated their employees since then.
kgeist 2 hours ago||
The original developers are from Russia. They now seem to have an office in London
devmor 2 hours ago||
My only concern with ordering a Flipper One is import controls. I've heard of Zeros getting seized in customs.
supersimpleguy 1 hour ago|
Absolutely a thing. I’ve got documentation that says I work in ITSEC but I’ve never been stopped with mine. However I don’t travel to BRIC-aligned countries for the most part so YMMV.

I tend to wipe mine before international travel and just stick on IR remote stuff, juuuust in case someone wants to ask a lot of questions. It’s easy enough to restore the back up I take beforehand.

guax 1 hour ago||
I've traveled multiple times to the B in bric with mine without issue but that might have been before it got famous. Seems like Anatel confirmed they don't consider it homologated, and thus, technically illegal to import/sell there. Chances are it gets in but not out.

The flipper one is closer to a Raspberry pi, if the LoRa and Wifi are in homologated modules it would be perfectly legal to carry around. If not, it would be on the same rule of the zero and illegal.

Animats 1 hour ago|
Is it wise to buy this until someone has taken one apart and checked for backdoors?
dgellow 1 hour ago|
What kind of backdoor would you expect in such a device?