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Posted by alkyon 4 hours ago

Geoffrey Hinton: it might turn out we were better off without AI(www.theguardian.com)
196 points | 144 commentspage 4
throwthrowuknow 4 hours ago|
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neonnoodle 3 hours ago||
oh word?
jjgreen 4 hours ago||
The scene is bleak, silent, desert-like with a few dead trees bleached white by unfiltered UV. Nothing moves. In the distance a cave, and from that cave

... no shit Sherlock

bluebarbet 4 hours ago|
9 minutes. Was that enough time to read the article?
emil-lp 2 hours ago|||
My reader mode says 6–7 minutes, so, yes.

TFA could have been two sentences:

He warns that AI might cause serious problems: power failures, job losses, and greater social inequality.

He believes AI might improve our lives, but governments must make sure it is safe.

catchnear4321 4 hours ago|||
Did you look at it? It wasn’t that long.
ionwake 4 hours ago||
I personally feel reading the article before commenting affects the purity of my vibe before posting
librasteve 4 hours ago||
vibe comments!
bondarchuk 3 hours ago||
So why did he start to develop it in the 1970s?
emil-lp 3 hours ago|
Why did he start a research direction that 50 years later "might turn out" to not be a good idea?

That's a relatively silly question, don't you think?

bondarchuk 2 hours ago|||
No it's a completely serious question. The goal has always been to replicate human/biological thinking processes in software, and now that this has been more or less achieved he's suddenly not happy about it. There's been plenty of opportunity to actually think about "what if all of this actually works" but they chose not to.
injidup 2 hours ago|||
Sounds like sour grapes. He worked on it for a long time but he doesn't own a trillion dollar company. Missed the boat?
xnx 4 hours ago|
This is a bit like Rudolf Diesel saying maybe we're better off without airplanes. The field has long since left this guy behind.
Towaway69 3 hours ago||
So pumping CO2 into the atmosphere is a good thing and if someone does a backflip by recognising their mistakes that is a bad thing?
xnx 51 minutes ago|||
All economic activity emits CO2 directly or indirectly. The question is are the benefits worth the cost, and could the process be more efficient. A molecule of data center CO2 doesn't affect the climate any more than one that comes from producing cement, or getting a Labubu delivered overnight. If we want less CO2 emitted, it is best to treat emissions equally and let people decide what they value when they spend their money.
reverius42 3 hours ago||||
We should regulate data centers to require fully renewable power (solar/wind/hydro + battery).
vixen99 1 hour ago|||
This is tangential encouraged by your point and other forays here. But one does wonder what arguments politicians (the power lies with them) understand when they make their pronouncements. The UK has for instance, prior to the new administration, totally and vociferously supported net zero. From the point of view (a fact for many but not for all informed authorities) that climate change is caused by CO2 and we are headed for a disaster - Net Zero is a logical step to trying to save humanity and the whole ecosystem. Now (November) I read that the UK powers that be, appear to have put it aside in actions at least. Countdown to Net Zero doesn't matter any more; open the oil fields, get rid of subsidies for photovoltaic and wind - and other measures. My point is not a political jibe but a stance I suspect to apply in other areas. Is climate change going to be a catastrophe or not? They should make up their minds.
coldtea 2 hours ago||
If the resulting issues are correct it doesn't matter whether the field left the guy behind or not.

He would still be right and the field practioners would be wrong.