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Posted by zenincognito 4 days ago

Guerrilla bike lanes: San Francisco makes illicit infrastructure permanent (2016)(99percentinvisible.org)
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hinkley 3 days ago|
I still think the better way to go is to find lawyers who will aggressively seek civil suits against the idiots who hit cyclists.

Two of the prominent members of our club were hit by a drunk driver outside a small town. Nobody died but bikes destroyed, nasty bruises, cracked ribs and vertebrae.

The driver shouldn’t have still had his license based on previous offenses. But his dad was a politician. Mayor I believe, and had been bailing that piece of shit out of trouble for who knows how long. I bet daddy would stop protecting him if he was on the hook for a couple million in damages. And/or corruption charges.

One of the victims was in fact a lawyer but I think he was property law not criminal.

OsrsNeedsf2P 3 days ago|
Your comment explains why guerrilla bike lanes are in fact better than civil suits
bragr 4 days ago||
There's another side of stuff like this. People living up in the hills above LA near trail heads will put up fake no parking zones in front of their houses. People have gotten real tickets in fake zones.
riffic 4 days ago|
a counterexample of good tactical urbanism in Los Angeles People's Vision Zero, a group painting crosswalks where the city itself won't budge on safety demands (motonormativity is the rule)

https://www.reddit.com/r/BikeLA/comments/1pl8guj/i_started_a...

GaryBluto 4 days ago||
>painting crosswalks where the city itself won't budge

So, political vandals?

riffic 4 days ago||
direct action gets the goods.

If you haven't noticed this entire thread is about illicit infrastructure. There could be a moral argument to be had (which you are not making) but no one is denying the vandalism aspect.

GaryBluto 4 days ago||
But people obviously don't want the "goods", by and large. Otherwise the city would budge.
samrus 4 days ago|||
Thats such a wild assumption. Your saying the government always folows the will of the public? Theres nothing people want that governments are giving them?
mkaic 4 days ago||||
unless the city governance is in the pocket of the wealthiest members of the city's population, and those members don't want the goods. I witnessed this first hand in Los Angeles when I lived there.
doctorpangloss 3 days ago||||
Crosswalks are popular. The issue is more complicated than you think.
arijun 4 days ago||||
Huh? Are cities near you known for quick and easy-to-navigate bureaucratic processes?
mbrameld 4 days ago|||
[citation needed]
moebrowne 4 days ago||
Archive link: https://web.archive.org/web/20261104150424/https://99percent...
gchamonlive 4 days ago||
Reminds me of https://translate.kagi.com/www.bbc.com/portuguese/brasil-366...

  The lesson from residents who built a bridge for less than 2% of the budget projected by the city government
autoexec 4 days ago|
It's very easy to save money when you don't pay workers and aren't worried about safety or accessibility. They'd made and were using several wooden bridges before this one, but all of them failed and were washed away. Maybe they get lucky and this one will stay up for a long time, and be continuously maintained by volunteers, but I'm very glad that the bridges in my city are more expensive because they were built by engineers who have to get designs approved and their work inspected and maintained regularly.
gchamonlive 4 days ago||
Actually it's easy to inflate prices when politicians are corrupt, also https://translate.kagi.com/globoplay.globo.com/v/3474112

  Overpass collapses in Belo Horizonte, killing two
This happened where I live over 10 years ago, a huge investment that collapsed when they tried to hammer the support off. This was overseen by Cowan and had many engineers signing off.

The bottom line is when there is political interest, even guerrilla infra might work, but nothing survives corruption and neglect. The case of the makeshift bridge is only a matter of making the required tests and adaptations to make it legal or condemning the structure and building a new one.

ivolimmen 3 days ago||
It's nice to see that other countries are opening up to bikers. This is a very applaudable action of the local government. I hope and wish for everyone in the world to have the same bike infrastructure like we (the Dutch) do.
masakino 3 days ago||
if youve never listened to it, the podcast episode linked in the article about guerrilla public service is a really nice listen. Their episodes are pleasant, half scripted half chatty. Recommend!

https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/guerrilla-public-serv...

hk1337 3 days ago||
This is great! They saw a problem, found a solution, and just fixed it. Better than complaining about it for 5-10 years waiting for someone else to do something
jgbuddy 4 days ago||
if you want it done right, you often have to do it yourself
FinnLobsien 4 days ago||
This is similar to The Oval at Ohio State University. Instead of planning walkways across a field of grass, they looked where students actually walked and then paved those routes.

I think this applies to so many things. Centrally planned things rarely work exactly as planned, especially if the people doing the planning are separate from those executing the plan.

Much of the time, it's better to observe what's working in practice (even if in a messy way) and systemize it rather than have a perfect concept that disintegrates upon contact with reality.

throw938990 3 days ago|
I like guerrilla housing. City does not build enough flats, so you occupy unused parking lot or sidewalk, and build house there!
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