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Posted by karakoram 4 days ago

YC's Garry Tan uses AI agents so much, he spends up to $200K a year on tokens(techcrunch.com)
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yfw 3 days ago|
An employee uses 200k of electricity. Do we fire or promote him?
asdff 3 days ago|
Sun Tsu would probably say do nothing. World sees you have an ordinary employee using 200k of electricity and you don’t care. Quite a show of force.
alpineman 3 days ago||
Someone needs to tell this guy about the subscriptions
miltonlost 4 days ago||
> As an early OpenClaw adopter who is now a power user, Tan says one thing he’s learned is not to treat AI agents like traditional software. Some people are so worried about “repeatability and safety that they actually trade off all of the beautiful parts of working with an AI agent, which basically can be so similar to a human,” he said.

This is insane. He's turning the failure of his AI assistants to do what he wants every single time and to do it in a safe manner into a positive thing. Failure as a positive!

thephyber 4 days ago||
To be fair, using the scientific method to disprove superstitions is what the Enlightenment was all about and that is the most significant engine of growth and flourishing humankind has known.

That said, I approach AI with deep skepticism. I try to learn it, including its strengths and weaknesses. But I don't blindly trust it.

Coincidentally, my stock brokerage just yesterday sent an email reminding users that anything their agents do using the user's credentials is the responsibility of the user.

zombot 3 days ago||
> Failure as a positive

Since failure is such a likely outcome in a startup, "failure as a positive" is a mindset that a startup accelerator must propagate to keep founders going. And when you sell a message for long enough, you start to believe it yourself.

glennfiedler 4 days ago||
He’s gotta pump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers in this racket
asdff 3 days ago|
Yeah, why not 400k? Low energy.
glennfiedler 3 days ago||
1.2 or GTFO
mrlonglong 1 day ago||
$200k buys you a lot of hardware that will save you lots in the long run. Is he incapable of doing the maths?
koehr 3 days ago||
That he calls it Cyber Psychosis is so telling! No Garry, were not yet in the Cyberpunk universe and that's not how you get Cyber Psychosis. It's a man with a lot of money spending too much on hyper fixation.
jrflowers 3 days ago||
I love that the world’s dumbest guys all get up and pay the computer to tell them they’re big special boys then publicly say stuff like “my brain is bad in a video games way”

> he’s suffered from “cyber psychosis” and sometimes barely sleeps

asdff 3 days ago|
At his level the skill is about getting money out of the right pockets, not really about being particularly smart or even very good at managing business.
rhines 3 days ago||
It reminds me of how we laugh at scam emails for being poorly written and obviously a scam, but the theory is that this filters out all but the most gullible people so the conversion rate on anyone that replies is high.

If your business model is taking money from gullible investors, maybe it's reasonable to appear (or actually be) incompetent so that you don't accidentally waste your time on people who haven't drunk the Kool-Aid.

ShadowOfThePit 4 days ago||
> ...his agent also helps him run his life. “It’s read all of my email and all of my Dropbox. It’s read, like, all of my Apple Notes, even my therapy notes going back 20 years”.

> He describes using AI agents as getting help with “almost anything that you do in your day-to-day life. (...) Almost anything you want to do, it knows you, and it’s there to help. And it will actually sort of run ahead and say, ‘What about this?’ Or it’ll help you see around corners.”

Wow, impressive. Both the capabilities and how much he's willing to share.

Is it worth $17k per month? For me, absolutely not. But people spend more on luxurious cars and such, so if you've got money to spare...

> Y Combinator is also using an agent that is “rebuilding the way we operate at YC. We now have an internal AI agent, for instance, named Stray Light that kind of has a personality, and then it has a company brain. It actually has the total context of every founder we’ve ever backed, anyone who’s ever emailed us, like all the applications.”

Holy anthropomorphization. But besides that, what's the goal of doing this? Keeping a handy overview of when and why someone said something?

pythonaut_16 3 days ago||
Still doesn't explain where $17k of tokens is going. I can believe someone could burn that many tokens, but most of what he's described there could be managed pretty easily on one of the $100-200 a month subscriptions I'd think.

The only way I can imagine to burn that many tokens is just to run every task fully through the most expensive LLM with no real strategy. Like indexing emails should be a combo of scripts and small summarizing prompts I'd think.

switchers 4 days ago|||
Naming your internal AI agent after the massive run down home of an uber rich but probably insane family of confusing clones who made god level AIs (from Neuromancer)... Classy.
dreadsword 4 days ago|||
That was my thought --- an odd and offputting choice of identity
PebblesRox 3 days ago|||
I always thought this about Soylent but it never seemed to stop anybody.
timmytokyo 3 days ago|||
When they show you what they are, believe them.
zbentley 3 days ago|||
Major “we built an AI to help our business called Torment Nexus” vibes, yes.
SpicyLemonZest 4 days ago|||
> Holy anthropomorphization. But besides that, what's the goal of doing this? Keeping a handy overview of when and why someone said something?

You'd be surprised how important such an overview can be in relationship-based businesses. People spend a lot of time trying to track down a vague memory they have of someone telling them something. CRM platforms are big for a reason, after all.

27183 4 days ago|||
He must be the most annoying person to try to interact with. Clodslop for days.
dgellow 3 days ago|||
I like how the can absolutely never provide anything specific. It’s always „it helps with everything!“. Like what exactly Gary?
randysalami 4 days ago|||
“ Holy anthropomorphization. But besides that, what's the goal of doing this?”

Because they can. It’s as simple as that. To find meaning, to feel in control, to win. To dominate.

dd3ddaa 3 days ago||
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tibbydudeza 3 days ago||
So what has he shipped - let me guess - nothing of wrong.
bill10 3 days ago|
Interesting he doesn't get free accounts?
flyingsky 3 days ago|
Whats in it for the labs if they give Gary Tan free tokens for uhm, Gstack?
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