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Posted by Philpax 18 hours ago

Ripple-65B Preview: U.S. Open-Weight SOTA on Agentic Coding(www.ricursive.com)
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namjh 8 hours ago|
New model is always a good news!

However, the chart comparing the score-by-parameters with existing models is misleading, because the others are all MoE, and this model is not. The article describes it as an architectural decision to optimize against NVIDIA cards(which sounds reasonable, as US labs are relatively easy to gain access to these high-performance chips) but the chart should've been adjusted to reflect the difference, say, by using the heuristic that `effective param size ≈ sqrt(total param size * activiated param size` on MoEs.

minimaxa 16 hours ago||
Agentic coding benchmarks look great.

I think we will find the market is going to move into omni multi-modal models: text, moe, agentic tasks, voice, images, and video all in one LLM.

soohamr 10 hours ago||
Wasn't ricursive's sthick to automate EDA and chip design with LLMs? Why are they releasing open weight agentic coding models and benchmarking on everything but EDA and chip design?
ggcr 7 hours ago||
I was also surprised to not find any benchmark for RTL in the model card. Wonder how it would score on - say, CVDP
nghiemphucminh7 9 hours ago||
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thesnarkitecht 16 hours ago||
Speaking as someone who has High-Memory Mac Studios, it is great that there is finally a model that will run at usable speeds with high quality. In my experience, the sweet spot for Mac Clusters is around 200GB of weights, which this is far under. Congratulations to the recursive team for building an open model that will actually run!
Tepix 14 hours ago|
It will be slow on Macs, it's a dense model.
RandyOrion 10 hours ago||
Nice to see another open weight model.

I cannot evaluate how valuable this model is based on the performance table alone because the comparison is kind of narrow. Waiting for third-party benchmarks to provide more information.

I do not have the hardware to run it properly without super-heavy quantization (about q2). Besides, the architecture is not optimized for local usage (sliding window attention also requires KV cache). I think I will just move on.

monksy 7 hours ago||
Looks like this may be the GGUF one: https://huggingface.co/AtomicChat/Ripple-65B-Preview-GGUF
mark_l_watson 11 hours ago||
Oh, I thought this was from the company recursive.com who released the very good for its size model Flint.

I am looking at the HF model page https://huggingface.co/ricursiveAI/Ripple-65B-Preview and it looks like I need to wait a day for an Apple Silicon version.

dofm 18 hours ago||
So we have a Recursive and a Ricursive, both making LLMs?
wmf 17 hours ago||
Time to start Rickursive, the lab that will never give you up and never let you down.
6thbit 17 hours ago|||
And it should acquire the existing two
neutronicus 17 hours ago||
Roll them up, you might say.
throwaw12 17 hours ago|||
we need RichUrsive
xyzrt 17 hours ago|||
One making self-improving AI via AI-chip co-design, the other relying only on software for self-improving AI.
dofm 17 hours ago||
I hope they never have to call each other about anything. It could get confusing if neither knows who is the base case.
giwook 17 hours ago||
There seems to be some recursion going on here.
piscoi 1 hour ago||
Kutia giza kwenye gem
purplemantis 16 hours ago|
These are pretty odd benchmarks to use. Terminal Bench 2.1 is old. SWE-bench was disavowed by OpenAI. DeepSWE is clearly benchmark-hacked by Gemini.
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