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Posted by freetonik 3 days ago

I wish tech companies knew more about me(rakhim.exotext.com)
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shantnutiwari 2 days ago|
Its as bad, or even worse.

Amazon keeps recommending me sequel to books I never finished (which they know as on kindle it tracks how many page you read), or books I gave 1 star reviews to.

I often scream at my Kindle/Audible app: "My brother, you know I hate that series and gave it a 1 star why do you keep recommeding it?"

And I have to go thru crappy Goodreads lists to find an interesting book

cadamsdotcom 2 days ago||
All the terrible targeting is because advertisers aren't incentivised to show you ads for what you actually want.

They're incentivised to get money for showing you ads for what you plausibly might want, for the lowest cost possible.

Also if you buy one thing and the algorithms go "finally! Some signal" you're doing pretty good on the hiding.

titzer 3 days ago||
I worked for Google for 10 years. All of my personal email and all of my work email (back then, Google, now CMU) goes through Gmail. They know basically everything that's ever been sent as a receipt in an email. They know what I watch on YouTube, what I search for Google, and Android's little Google rootkit knows everywhere I go, and by extension, everyone I hang out with. They know I install an adblocker everywhere I can. I rail against advertising and tracking on the internet (this site) all the time.

Yet they don't freaking get it. Google has not discovered that I do not like ads. Advertising (mostly) doesn't work on me. I don't buy the shit that is advertised to me. Sometimes, it's the absolute opposite.

...and yet, on the one device I haven't got an ad blocker on, they insist on showing me ads for stuff I WILL NOT BUY. (one specific insurance ad I have been seen for 4+ years--no, no no).

I just don't get it. They expect me to pay for YouTube premium or something, I don't know. I won't pay them.

Google bought my 30s and now they just can't help but nickle-and-dime my mind from here to eternity. It's kind of infuriating. They don't need to know more about me. What they do know about me should be enough!

0gs 3 days ago||
i worked at google for 18 years. they certainly "know" you don't like ads, and they definitely don't care. they may also "know" your consumer account is a safe place to dump all the non-converting impressions they need to burn somewhere, but even if you could prove that, they wouldn't care. tbh, whenever somebody comes at me with tin foil hat assertions i point to this exact hilarious scenario as why i do not believe they are actually surveillance-oriented business a la the palantirs of the world. i think their ideal state is 100 trillion anonymous bank accounts they can pull from, not 8 billion unique human profiles to care about.
titzer 3 days ago||
Google's culture is to just burn ungodly amounts of disk space as a kind of flex for how important a team's project is. So every Google service is collecting as much as it can, all the time, with legal counsel and some "oh we value your privacy" sophistry going on.

If you still work for Google I recommend reading privacy design docs for random large scale services if you're able. It's very telling what the priorities are.

And I agree that they mostly don't want to be Palantir-like. They mostly don't care about people. They care about advertisers. Any new targeting mechanism they can offer advertisers they absolutely will. The problem is they sit on a gold mine of very, very sensitive personal data (most of it "anonymized"). Most of it can be de-anonymized with little work. Worse, they will absolutely cough it up to the government when required. They also have a lot of motivated engineers thinking of ways to try to use said data to "improve products". Like the whole saga of doing activity inference for Android users. You don't even want to know about how stupid and creepy that is/was.

pocksuppet 3 days ago|||
Advertising works on everyone. The more you think it doesn't, the more it does.
titzer 3 days ago||
Fair. Either way, I don't want to see it.
PhunkyPhil 3 days ago||
I think you're missing the point of ads. They're not (only) there so you click on them and buy something, they're there because it implants the brand into your mind.

"one specific insurance ad I have been seen for 4+ years"

And the one time you need some random specific insurance, what are you going to think about?

Bluescreenbuddy 1 day ago||
Algos don’t give a shit about what you want. They don’t want you siloed. They want max engagement. Max exposure tho advertising and marketing.
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