Motorola Signature 27 with GrapheneOS support

Posted by monneyboi 2 hours ago

Motorola Signature 27 with GrapheneOS support(motorolanews.com)

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kevincox 1 hour ago|

I wonder how much GrapheneOS support will help other Android "distros" like LineageOS. In theory since GrapheneOS is open source it should be quite easy to port the low-level stuff including security updates for the full supported lifecycle (at least as much as the security patches affect both Graphene and other ROMs).

passive 1 hour ago||

I have a Pixel 10 that I'm looking to install GrapheneOS on, but even at $1599 I'm still intrigued by this. It seems they are trying to build a real long term device with few downsides, which is a big contrast to a lot of Motorola's recent phones.

dazhbog 1 hour ago||

Did they just say agentic AI? Does that mean they will load crap on top of Graphene?

ysnp 39 minutes ago||

Any AI features and components would be included in their own Android distribution (pretend it's called Moto OS). GrapheneOS (a different AOSP distribution) would need to be flashed independently completely at the device owner's choice and doesn't have anything Motorola-related bundled.

ethagnawl 29 minutes ago||

Oh, weird. I didn't realize they were marketing it as GrapheneOS _capable_. I thought the intention/one of the selling points was that it'd ship with GrapheneOS _pre-installed_.

HybridStatAnim8 34 minutes ago||

They do not have a say in what GrapheneOS runs. The signing keys for GrapheneOS are controlled by GrapheneOS.

vollbrecht 1 hour ago||

$1,599 MSRP

warrantisall 1 hour ago||

With that unaffordable that price I'll stick with Pixels or switch to iPhones completely.

ajjahs 1 minute ago|

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mapierce2 1 hour ago||

> The first Motorola device to support GrapheneOS, an privacy and security-focused mobile operating system.

… "an privacy" …

A confidence-inspiring typo, unless there is a novel way of pronouncing "privacy" that I'm unaware of.

jazzyjackson 1 hour ago|

I appreciate it as a sign that this was written by hand ;)

Onavo 1 hour ago||

Allegedly the Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 (Oryon acquisition) Gen 6 SoC costs them $300 per device..

dopa42365 35 minutes ago|

Bunch of fancy cameras (same as every other flagship smartphone) and following the unwritten "thou flagship shall be expensive" rule that has little to do with silly things like hardware cost.

Somewhat surprisingly, Lenovo/Motorola here has some of the more affordable mainstream phones (200€-ish for the G56), beating other Chinese brands that played around tiny margins and got hit even harder by memory prices now.

grapheneos 1 minute ago||

There will be more devices from Motorola providing official GrapheneOS support including budget devices. It has to start from the top down since Qualcomm currently only provides the security features we need for flagship Snapdragon.

jauntywundrkind 1 hour ago||

I'm very happy for graphene and motorola, and hoping this comes to less premium lines!

One of the most exciting things is that GrapheneOS folks insist the bootloader not be locked. I continue to think actual Linux on the phone is kind of just waiting for us, that it'd be imminently possible. If we had some modern-ish devices with unlocked bootloaders. Especially if they are Qualcomm chipsets, which have been seeing a lot more linux upstreaming/mainlining support than any other ARM platform. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49361686

HybridStatAnim8 33 minutes ago|

GrapheneOS requires the bootloader be locked for a complete install. But it does require the bootloader be unlockable and support yellowboot.

GrapheneOS, Android, and android based OSs, are all linux distros.

rarisma 1 hour ago|

phone looks like a fucking alien but glad its not just pixels now.